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Topic CM:2000, I have a question?? By flamin Date 05-08-2008 02:13
Hey guys- I hope this is the right place to post this.

I'm in the middle of studying for my CWI exam, and as I was going through the CM:2000 and answering the qestions at the end of chapter 7, I came upon a question that seems a little contradicting, or I am missing something altogether. Here it is:

On page 125 (of CM:2000) Q7-7 asks " When rapid cooling produces a mertensitic structure, what nonaustenizing heat treatment may be applied to improve the ductility of the steel?"

The choices are
a. quenching
b. tempering
c. annealing
d. normalizing
e. none of the above.

The answer key in the book says C. annealing is the answer, I thought it would be B. tempering, because..............

On page 112, it states, "Steels quenched to form martensite usually require a "tempering" heat treatment to lower their hardness and strength, and improve ductility and toughness. Tempering is accomplished by heating the martensite to a temperature between 100F and 1300F to soften the steel."

AND.....
On page 111, it states(in the grey box), "In furnace anneal the steel is taken to its austenitizing temperature, held for a period of time, and allowed to cool in the furnace."

So am I missing somthing here?

Thanks for any input.
Jason
Topic scwi reference material By hogan Date 05-07-2008 18:21
I was looking at the scwi and wondering what reference materials were needed for the examination. It's hard to imagine bringing all of the self study material referenced. Thanks for any input
Topic ASME Code Cert. By weebeastie Date 05-03-2008 01:24
Sounds like this beta ASME test they are having in July is a sign that the ASME test is getting upgraded and ready to fly?  I'd like to take the ASME Section IX, B31.1 and B31.3 I'm going to have to study plus take a seminar.  Does anyone know when AWS is going to start up testing and conducting  seminars on this code?  Yes, I have passed the CWI with API-1104 code.

How many days did the ASME seminar take in the past?  I'm really itching for this to get back into operation.  Any rumors or info. would be most appreciated...
Topic cwi test- getting harder or staying about the same? By MAYNYRD Date 04-26-2008 15:02
i was always told by other cwi's the test was hard and required a lot of study time. very true, when i took mine in 06 it was a lot different than i thought it would be and even though i did get good scores, i would call it a challange, not a breeze to pass. i was talking with a guy who is taking the sminar/test in nashville this week and he says the instructor told the class that to many people were passing the test so they had to make it harder. supposidly only one person out of 26 passed in st louis? that makes no sense, why would aws charge you all that money and try to make you fail when the test is tricky enough as it is?  i dont think its true,  any thoughts on this would be appreciated.
MAYNYRD
Topic New CWI Endorsements! By pipewelder_1999 Date 04-26-2008 03:53
I have pretty much been the same inspector since the 1st test. The card and number is just something to show those that depend upon those type of things that I have a basic understanding of this. I do agree that having the cert is useful. But it is a drop in the bucket compared to having the knowledge. What changes every three years if I pay my fee? I continue to get "inspection trends" 4 times a year ! As an inspector, I don't change.  I do agree that the fees are necessary to cover the cost to AWS but they seem high. Basically the two tests I passed before the last one are of "No Value". Money in the bank for someone. Yet I as an welding professional continue to learn more through experience and self study. I grow based on my experiences and not the pieces of paper I buy.

When I took this test the last time I wanted to do the SCWI. I met the requirements BUT if I remember right I had to take the CWI 1st, pay those fees and then do the requirements for a SCWI and test. I couldn't just take the SCWI exam even though I had passed the CWI twice before.

It just seems like a high price for what you get. Why doesn't AWS certify welders? They wrote a "Program" for a facility and required the facility to "Certify" . Is it because there is more to certifying a welder than givin him or her a computer graded test that has been very close to the same for many years?

Anybody can maintain the cert who feels that is necessary. Just send the money, go to boot camp, get the ceu's whatever it takes.

Edit: Have a nice day!
Topic D1.1 2008? By flamin Date 04-25-2008 19:07
Hey guys-
So I'm scheduled to take the CWI exam of D1.1 in June. I know the 2008 revision of D1.1 is scheduled to be out soon, and was wondering how much difference there usually is beween revisions? I've been studying d1.1 2006, But I'm thinking I might need the 2008 version for my test, and if so, what should I expect? I'm assuming that it will probably be basically the same, but with a few things added or changed.

Thanks
Jason
Topic cwi d1.1 exam By Lawrence Date 04-24-2008 16:40
Will

Use the search function on this website and type in words like "CWI EXAM"  and you will find tons of strateges and data that will help you get through your upcomming study.

You came to the right place.

When specific technical questions come to you also post them right here and the folks will pitch in.
Topic Is anyone certified for API 510 or 570? By soilschick Date 04-19-2008 01:26
My company is looking into work on refineries and spill cleanup.  The plan is to investigate and possiblly pursue work in a few months.  Since I am the only CWI and NDT person for my office, finding out information on API certifications falls on my shoulders.  I am thinking about testing for API 510 in Dec.  How hard is the exam?  Is it worth the extra money to take class or seminar to prep for the exam?  Or should I be crazy enough to pursue the NBIC certification?  I know the API cert will significantly increase my hourly wage.  But is the extra wage worth the hassle of the exam?  I plan to study way ahead of time for any certification I pursue from this point forward.  I learned my lesson with the CWI exam.  I just want to know if I should take it or just forget it and let the company outsource the work to a consultant...
Topic A few more questions for you CWI's By Heli-Arc Date 04-18-2008 01:47
  Hi Joe,

  As for the experience he has welded since he was about 16 after school, weekends and through the summer, up until he graduated college. He already has his Pennsylvania FE. After some opionions he has decided against the CWeng but he said he may go for the CWI. He said thanks for your opinion and and wants the PE, but after starting to work he has a hard time finding the time to study.

Thanks,
  Tom
Topic International Test Facilities By kipman Date 04-15-2008 06:38
Ed,
In spending 5+ years in Korea I worked with a lot of good Korean inspectors.  Very professional and looking to improve.  I also worked with a number that were not good.  No surprise - I have found that to be the case wherever I've been in the world.
South Korea has a large number of CWI's.  AWS from time to time schedules seminars and exams in Korea.  The exams are given in English.  I have maintained a small degree of involvement with a group in Korea (Korean Inspectors Network) that exists for the purpose of helping Korean inspectors advance their careers.  One of the activities this group sponsors is study groups to help prospective Korean AWS CWI test-takers improve their English and study for the CWI exam.  They do this in what is my estimation a very professional manner, and their success rate is pretty good.
I do not know anything about the Chinese market, however.  I do know that D1.1 is not published by AWS in any language other than English.  I would guess that some enterprising person in China has translated D1.1 into Mandarin or Cantonese, and that copies of this circulate.  That would present new interpretational problems, as even amongst native English speakers it is often difficult to agree on the meaning of a code provision.
Mankenberg
Topic NICORE 55 By 803056 Date 04-14-2008 16:30
As a SCWI I don't recall ever seeing the term MAG in any of the AWS literature or study materials.

You hit a real sore spot with me Rick. As a CWI / CWE, I would expect you to use standard terms and definitions. Most people consider Wisconsin a part of the US, so there's even less of a reason to use nonstandard terms. Get with the program friend.

Al
Topic CAWI and CWI Testing By Joseph P. Kane Date 04-14-2008 10:12
Jeff

The math on the current CWI examination is 7th grade.  Nobody here can say what it will be in 10 years.  The test is constantly being revised. While it is never too early to "Start" studying the body of knowledge that you need to be a CWI, you have AT LEAST three years of welding to a "Code" to get under your belt before you can even sit to take the exam and even get a CAWI.

The wealth of basic information that you need to draw on is found in the Welding Inspection Technology,Text (WIT), The Welding Handbook, Volume 1, The definitions book, the welding symbols book, the B5.1, QC-1 and the Certification Manual.  Theere could even be questions from QC-1.

If you read these documents, 20 pages every night, for the next three years, you will be ready.  Refreshing the body of knowledge is also necessary, so keep reading and rereading.

Finally. you should only aspire to be a CAWI if you can pass at the CWI level, but don't have the required experience.  The only person in the world who cannot inspect welds unsupervised, is a CAWI!

Good Luck.
Topic CWI or NDT? By Heli-Arc Date 04-12-2008 11:59
Olstinker,

    I'm doing the same as you are & taking the CWI exam in September.  Download the "CWI Program Package" from the AWS site and it has Body of Knowledge page that gives you the recommended self-study book list. As for the price, look at the forums for books for sale and I seen a few on Ebay also.

Tom
Topic CWI or NDT? By olstinker Date 04-12-2008 01:43
well, i started by joining the AWS. Ive also used the search option for books and study material pertaining to CWI and cant seem to come up with a comprehensive list of all books or study material to prepare for the CWI semiar and test. I came up with a list of about 15 different books .. is this right ? Im really looking forward to moving up with my career. P.S. tthose books arent cheap are they?
Topic CWI or NDT? By soilschick Date 04-08-2008 02:36
I agree with the other posters and go for CWI first.  Get your hands on as much material and books beforehand and study them to death.  Read and re-read.  Do not try to memorize the code book.  Get an idea and become familiar with the table of contents.  You do not want to waste time on test day, flipping pages and looking for answers.  If you do not pass the first time, look over what areas are your weakness and study those areas more intensely.  DO not be afraid to ask what you might "stupid" questions, because if you have a questions, then others do too.  I admire you for advancing your knowledge and willing to face uncertain areas of knowledge.  Once you pass the CWI, apply for the ACCP program with ASNT.  Pay a $200 application fee and you will have a ASNT Level II Visual Testing certification.  I would highly recommend attending training courses for Level I and II UT.  I wish someone had told me some helpful tips before I took the seminar.  I was completely lost and never quite got it.
Topic CWI or NDT? By dbigkahunna Date 04-07-2008 22:21
If failure is not an option, then you better study your butt off! There are no secrets or shortcuts to passing the CWI exam. Simply, study. 1-2 hours per night for 4-6 weeks if you are weak before the seminar. Take the one week seminar and again study your butt off while at the seminar. Stay out of the wine shed while at the seminar.
Do not be afraid of the test. You put the time in, it will be returned. Look at $35 to $5K if you have to pay your own freight. And I would. If the emploryer pays for it, then they do have a right to expect something from it. IF you pay it all yourself, it is yours free and clear.
And if for some reason you dont pass, they give the test every week somewhere and in Miami once a month. Dont be so afraid of failure just because you may fail a test, you dont do anything. I would rather be one year older having tried and failed a couple of times than one year older and have my pride because I didn't fail because I didn's try.
BABRT's
Topic code book By tbigtdav Date 03-31-2008 03:46
i am studying to take the cwi exam in june and have started to dive into the code book....i am finding that some practice questions i have are relatively easy to find the answers for and some i just cannot find the answer too. i am using the d1.1 practice questions from the real educational seminar from aws in 2006.can anyone help with some tips as to any keywords to look for or a question to ask myself to know whether to look at a table or the index(and the index topics) for the questions that are not so obvious where to look.i would greatly appreciate any tips .
Topic from welder to CWI By alstonwelding Date 03-11-2008 19:54
  This is my first post here, but I have been hanging around and reading them for awhile. I have been a AWS member for about 16 years , I have a 20 year  background in the SHIPYARD , INDUSTRIAL & NUCLEAR POWER PLANT INDUSTRIES as a welder (pipe & structural). I am currently  employed at a NATIONAL ACCELERATOR FACILITY and the owner of a small welding and fab. Shop.. I have flirted with tacking the CWI examine before in the past ,and got cold feet. This time I have been studying for the examine  for about a year, and I fully intend to continue all the way ( the week long seminar & the exam) until I receive my CWI certification. I have ordered just about every piece of study material that is offered  ( about $1200 worth ) and have been studying for about a year. This NOV. I will be attending the week long seminar in Roanoke, Va. And taking the CWI exam. So if I am lucky , by Jan. 2009 I will be putting CWI behind my name. I have been doing some CWI type work at the shop level at work(under supervision of the QA dept.) and at the  shop I own.. It would bee so nice to official and respected as so.  As a pipe welder I am at the top of my game ,with my 20 +   years experience and with what I'm able to accomplish under my  welding shield, but becoming a CWI would put me in a hole new ball game. Like I said I have been getting some experience ,  at what I call the shop level, with the documentation side of things (MTR, welding procedures, filler metal control ,etc. ).  What I would like to know is has any of you that stared out as a welder and moved on to CWI work, ever felt a little scared about making the switch to a new craft and after you did , have you ever regretted making the switch to CWI . My post is getting a little long winded so I will tell you'll about my job switching over to ASME B&PV code , and how the deification hit the oscillation device ( LOL ) in another post.  
Topic CWI TEST By hotwork Date 03-11-2008 10:33
Thanks for all the input it really helps, a little about my back ground,I have been in the welding industry for about 30 years mostly in the manufacturing side I was with Great Dane Trailer for 20 years and now in the lift truck manufacturing industry In the last year have taken a position doing all of our Companies training including the welding and testing of new welders this reguires the visual examination of weld test plates witch we would like to start doing in house this is why I am trying to become a CWI. In responce I my not have had the time to prepare that I needed this was done on short notice so this time I may be better prepared but we did give it 100% during the 2 weeks we were there. It did not help not having any experiance with the Structrial part or the welding, we do only GMAW in my areas.It is something I will need to learn. I am not making excuses just need to study more.
Topic cwi exam By ncdotcwi Date 03-10-2008 19:31
I've been in this line of work for many years.  I took the seminar and exam in 1998 and passed with an 88% mean average.  I got into a different line of work for a few years and let the last renewal get by me and lost my certification.  I am going back in April to re-take the seminar and test (CWI and CWE).  My current employer will be paying the cost.  I got the new 2006 d1.1 from the office and just got finished tabbing it out using index tabs purchased from the local wally world.  I used Avery Label Pro (share ware) and 8167 return address labels to overlay the tab inserts.  The following was recommended at the last seminar and was a great help on the open book portion of the test because of the time limits:

on the side; CONTENTS, TABLES, FIGURES, SECTION 1-GENERAL thru SECTION 8-EXISTING STRUCTURES, ANNEXES, COMMENTARY, INDEX
on the top; PREQUALIFIED PREHEAT (pg 66), PREQUALIFIED WPS (pg 70), PROCEDURE (pg 122), PERFORMANCE (pg 128), ELECTRODES (pg 150), FILLET SIZE (pg 204), VISUAL CRITERIA (pg 228)

It takes a lot of time to do this neatly so, do this before you get there or at least buy and print everything and take with you.  And learn how to navigate book.  You can find most things in the contents or index if they are not in the tabbed sections.

Study, study, study, every minute you can spare.  You will need this for the fundamentals/closed book portion of the exam.  While many things about the test are visual, such as interpreting weld symbols, other aspects of the material can be logged into long term memory by writing them down, as opposed to reading the topics repeatedly.  The first thing that comes to mind is essential variables for welder qualification.  If you work with this material and you know that he is qualified in horizontal groove because he passed the 6G, move on to another topic.  If you don't know, study the material and WRITE down topics that are unfamiliar.

As for the hands on (Part B), read carefully and block out distractions from previous experience.  This gets a lot of the older guys who are testing for the 9 year recert.  You are measuring and testing to a bogus code that will allow some ridiculous flaws to pass.  And watch for the trick questions.  I.E., the bogus code might state that porosity less than 3/8" (cumulative) is acceptable.  You will measure exactly 3/8" and that means that it fails.

Last but least, don't do any sight seeing while you are there.  Go to your room (at the same place the seminar is held if possible) and study for an hour.  Eat dinner quickly and go back to the room and study some more.  Take a shower and study some more.  Wake up and study for 15-20 minutes.  Eat breakfast and study for 10 or more minutes.  Get it???  Live it and breath it until the test is over (and break it up as much as you can).  And eat nutritiously while you are there, it's good for cognitive (brain) functions. 

I hope this is helpful.
Topic CWI TEST By jrw159 Date 03-10-2008 13:21
I would have to say that there are many reasons why a person might fail. One is stated by jon200013. This may not be your case, but does happen alot. Other reasons might or might not be, not actually having the background to be eligable to take the test, and I am by no means saying this is your case, just things I have seen in the past. Study habits, as well as a misconception that not just Hobart but any course, is supposed to make you pass the test. They are not intended to do anything but prepare you. You must have the background in the industry, as well as an open mind. I have seen book educated engineers, very sharp fellows go into the test thinking they already knew everything they needed to know and fail miserably as a result of thier attitude towards the preparatory classes. Again I am not saying that any of these is the reason you had trouble with the test. I would need more info on your actual background, as well as study habits, length of personal preparation and what your true feelings towards the test are. Also your long or short term goals for achieving this cert. could very well have an impact on your results. As for me personally, I went into it knowing that I had a very strong background in the welding and metal joining industry, but far from knowing all there is to know. I studied for 3 months prior to Hobart. And I was probably the biggest question asker as well as one of the only people to run my questions down to a solid answer rather than taking an answer that I really did not fully understand and stopping. I also knew when I started that I was going to make a carreer out of this and that I was not going to do just structural. I planned on delving into all fields of inspection from piping to bridge to railroad, and anywhere that I could go to be the most well rounded CWI that I could be. Did Hobart still have thier retest garauntee? Keep me posted on your progress.
Topic CWI TEST By jon20013 Date 03-10-2008 12:19
It sounds to me like you just didn't allow yourself enough time to be fully prepared for the test, this is a mistake an awful lot of people make.  While there may be 10's of thousands of current CWI's, the testing is NOT a cake walk, if you come expecting the 40 hour "pre-test" seminar to TEACH you what you should already know, you're in for heartache and in most cases, failure.

I've been a CWI continuously since 1980 and I'll tell you, everytime the 9-year testing renewal comes up, I pucker and would never even attempt it without the refresher course.  When I took my very first exam I had studied non-stop for six months and I mean every available hour of my day.  I don't mean to sound disrespectful but it just doesn't sound like you were prepared and maybe even hadn't taken the study seriously.

Knuckle down, try it again!
Topic CWI Study Guide By 67fordgalaxie50 Date 03-07-2008 17:03
Hello everyone, I have been in the welding field for over 20 yrs. I am going to take the AWS CWI API 1104 Exam on 4-4-2008. I have read all I can find on this subject in this fourm and others like it. I have bought the follwing books to study: Certification Manual, Welding Inspection Handbook, Welding Inspection Technology, Part B Examination Book of Specifications, API Standard 1104, and an Algebra book to refresh my math skills. I have been reading and studing this Material for about 2 months. I wished I could find some of the questions that might be on the test or some that are close to the test.I think I should have started studing earlier. I am thinging  that I should have gotten the AWS API-M:2006 Study Guide for API Standard 1104 - would this be a good investment?

I would like to know if anyone could tell me some things to study that maybe more  important than others.....

Thank you,
Austin
Topic Part B-practical -CWI exam By Asmith710 Date 03-04-2008 04:50
I have to retake part B of the CWI exam and was wondering what might be helpful to self study. Any information will be appreciated
Topic fillet weld symbol with no size specified By R McLead Date 02-28-2008 23:55
Thanks for your reply the reason I asked the question our company has recently mandated refresher classes on weld symbols and how they are used in welding symbols. Other people attending these classes said that they were told this exception was acceptable. The class I was in attendance in I did not hear this statement. I have just started studying for the CWI exam and I could not find any thing that allowed this exception to have no size used with fillet weld symbol.  I understand in groove welds no size means total joint penetration of weld but every thing I have read says noting of this in fillet welds and I have never heard this before.

Thanks
R McLead
Topic Used CWI Study Materials For Sale By csdenny Date 02-25-2008 16:23
I have some AWS CWI study materials that I'm putting up for sale. Most of the study materials are what I received when I attended the AWS Seminar. Everything is older and has been revised at least once, however a vast majority of the information is still valid and would be excellent for studying prior to going to the AWS CWI seminar or taking CWI test. Everything is in good condition and I've noted it if there is anything different than as received by the AWS, such as high-lighting, etc.

After the descriptions, I've listed the current cost if purchased from the AWS, the cost in (parenthesis) is what I'll take for each, about 1/3 of the current AWS price, plus whatever the shipping costs.

1986  WIT - 12 soft bound modules in an AWS blue binder. There is highlighting in 5 of the 12 modules. $204  ($70)

1986  WIT Workbook - WIT modules Q&A, Welding Fundamentals Exam, Practical Exam. Normally this is a soft bound book, but when I took the seminar there was a problem and the workbook was distributed loose leaf in a binder. $54  ($20)

1997 Visual Inspection Workshop Reference Manual  $57  ($20)

A2.4 - 86, Standard Symbols for Welding, Brazing & NDE  $111  ($40) Wrote my name inside.

A3.0 - 89, Standard Welding Terms and Definitions  $99   ($30)

B1.10 - 86, Guide for the NDI of Welds  $78  ($30)  Wrote my name inside.

B1.11 - 88, Guide for the Visual Inspection of Welds  $78  ($30)  Wrote my name inside.

2nd Ed, Welding Inspection Handbook  $57  ($20)  Wrote my name on top outside edge.

2004 AWS D1.1  $392  ($130)

I would like to sell as one lot to avoid shipping to multiple locations, if someone buys everything, I'll sell it all for $390 and that includes the shipping. In addition, I'll include 13 practice tests (about 665 Q&A). If you are interested, I will email a list of the practice test descriptions & the number of questions in each test.

I am located in Houston, Texas and if you have any questions or want to purchase, call me at 281-814-7529.
Topic Used CWI Study Materials For Sale By csdenny Date 02-25-2008 16:22
I have some AWS CWI study materials that I'm putting up for sale. Most of the study materials are what I received when I attended the AWS Seminar. Everything is older and has been revised at least once, however a vast majority of the information is still valid and would be excellent for studying prior to going to the AWS CWI seminar or taking CWI test. Everything is in good condition and I've noted it if there is anything different than as received by the AWS, such as high-lighting, etc.

After the descriptions, I've listed the current cost if purchased from the AWS, the cost in (parenthesis) is what I'll take for each, about 1/3 of the current AWS price, plus whatever the shipping costs.

1986  WIT - 12 soft bound modules in an AWS blue binder. There is highlighting in 5 of the 12 modules. $204  ($70)

1986  WIT Workbook - WIT modules Q&A, Welding Fundamentals Exam, Practical Exam. Normally this is a soft bound book, but when I took the seminar there was a problem and the workbook was distributed loose leaf in a binder. $54  ($20)

1997 Visual Inspection Workshop Reference Manual  $57  ($20)

A2.4 - 86, Standard Symbols for Welding, Brazing & NDE  $111  ($40) Wrote my name inside.

A3.0 - 89, Standard Welding Terms and Definitions  $99   ($30)

B1.10 - 86, Guide for the NDI of Welds  $78  ($30)  Wrote my name inside.

B1.11 - 88, Guide for the Visual Inspection of Welds  $78  ($30)  Wrote my name inside.

2nd Ed, Welding Inspection Handbook  $57  ($20)  Wrote my name on top outside edge.

2004 AWS D1.1  $392  ($130)

I would like to sell as one lot to avoid shipping to multiple locations, if someone buys everything, I'll sell it all for $390 and that includes the shipping. In addition, I'll include 13 practice tests (about 665 Q&A). If you are interested, I will email a list of the practice test descriptions & the number of questions in each test.

I am located in Houston, Texas and if you have any questions or want to purchase, call me at 281-814-7529.
Topic Used CWI Study Materials For Sale By csdenny Date 02-25-2008 16:22
I have some AWS CWI study materials that I'm putting up for sale. Most of the study materials are what I received when I attended the AWS Seminar. Everything is older and has been revised at least once, however a vast majority of the information is still valid and would be excellent for studying prior to going to the AWS CWI seminar or taking CWI test. Everything is in good condition and I've noted it if there is anything different than as received by the AWS, such as high-lighting, etc.

After the descriptions, I've listed the current cost if purchased from the AWS, the cost in (parenthesis) is what I'll take for each, about 1/3 of the current AWS price, plus whatever the shipping costs.

1986  WIT - 12 soft bound modules in an AWS blue binder. There is highlighting in 5 of the 12 modules. $204  ($70)

1986  WIT Workbook - WIT modules Q&A, Welding Fundamentals Exam, Practical Exam. Normally this is a soft bound book, but when I took the seminar there was a problem and the workbook was distributed loose leaf in a binder. $54  ($20)

1997 Visual Inspection Workshop Reference Manual  $57  ($20)

A2.4 - 86, Standard Symbols for Welding, Brazing & NDE  $111  ($40) Wrote my name inside.

A3.0 - 89, Standard Welding Terms and Definitions  $99   ($30)

B1.10 - 86, Guide for the NDI of Welds  $78  ($30)  Wrote my name inside.

B1.11 - 88, Guide for the Visual Inspection of Welds  $78  ($30)  Wrote my name inside.

2nd Ed, Welding Inspection Handbook  $57  ($20)  Wrote my name on top outside edge.

2004 AWS D1.1  $392  ($130)

I would like to sell as one lot to avoid shipping to multiple locations, if someone buys everything, I'll sell it all for $390 and that includes the shipping. In addition, I'll include 13 practice tests (about 665 Q&A). If you are interested, I will email a list of the practice test descriptions & the number of questions in each test.

I am located in Houston, Texas and if you have any questions or want to purchase, call me at 281-814-7529.
Topic Used CWI Study Materials For Sale By csdenny Date 02-25-2008 16:21
I have some used AWS CWI study materials that I'm putting up for sale. Most of the study materials are what I received when I attended the AWS Seminar. Everything is older and has been revised at least once, however a vast majority of the information is still valid and would be excellent for studying prior to going to the AWS CWI seminar or taking CWI test. Everything is in good condition and I've noted it if there is anything different than as received by the AWS, such as high-lighting, etc.

After the descriptions, I've listed the current cost if purchased from the AWS, the cost in (parenthesis) is what I'll take for each, about 1/3 of the current AWS price, plus whatever the shipping costs.

1986  WIT - 12 soft bound modules in an AWS blue binder. There is highlighting in 5 of the 12 modules. $204  ($70)

1986  WIT Workbook - WIT modules Q&A, Welding Fundamentals Exam, Practical Exam. Normally this is a soft bound book, but when I took the seminar there was a problem and the workbook was distributed loose leaf in a binder. $54  ($20)

1997 Visual Inspection Workshop Reference Manual  $57  ($20)

A2.4 - 86, Standard Symbols for Welding, Brazing & NDE  $111  ($40) Wrote my name inside.

A3.0 - 89, Standard Welding Terms and Definitions  $99   ($30)

B1.10 - 86, Guide for the NDI of Welds  $78  ($30)  Wrote my name inside.

B1.11 - 88, Guide for the Visual Inspection of Welds  $78  ($30)  Wrote my name inside.

2nd Ed, Welding Inspection Handbook  $57  ($20)  Wrote my name on top outside edge.

2004 AWS D1.1  $392  ($130)

I would like to sell as one lot to avoid shipping to multiple locations, if someone buys everything, I'll sell it all for $390 and that includes the shipping. In addition, I'll include 13 practice tests (about 665 Q&A). If you are interested, I will email a list of the practice test descriptions & the number of questions in each test.

I am located in Houston, Texas and if you have any questions or want to purchase, call me at 281-814-7529.
Topic Here I go........ By James Corbin Date 02-13-2008 18:43
Experience goes a long way towards being a good inspector. Learning on the job takes lots of time plus trial and error. The seminar does give you a well rounded knowledge beyond "passing the test" as well as what to expect during the test.

If you wish to self study, the "Body of Knowledge" list along with AWS recommended study books can be found at http://files.aws.org/certification/docs/cert0570.pdf

I would not buy any books that will be given out as part of the seminar, but do study before you go. There is a lot of great information to crammed down during the seminar week. You might buy "AWS CM:2000" Certification manual for welding inspectors for $135 (members) and review the different section in the code you wish to test on. There is no time the check the index for every question. The CWI brochure is at:
http://www.aws.org/education/cwi_brochure08.pdf
You can also get great books at the Lincoln Foundation such as "The Procedure Handbook of Arc Welding" which I consider a must at $25.00. It has sections on welding performance tests and inspection. https://ssl.lincolnelectric.com/foundation/store.asp?PID=16&cat=8

You should already have the basic inspector measuring tools, fillet gauge, bridge cam gauge or reinforcement gauge, undercut gauge, a thickness gauge (measuring tensile specimens) 6 inch rule etc. (GAL or NASCO) I don't have a list in front of me now. These tools as needed for the test will be provided during the seminar and test.
Good Luck
Topic Here I go........ By flamin Date 02-13-2008 17:44
Hello everyone, new guy here. I've been lurking in the forums that past few days reading up, great forum BTW, I look forward to learning what you have to offer. I've recently been nominated to be the CWI at my place of employment. Which I don't mind, since I really enjoy the subject.
   Just a little background, I have a AAS degree in welding, with about 10 years of on the job welding experience. I haven't actually welded much for the past 7 years, since becoming the shop foreman of a machine shop, other than a few work fixtures here and there. I've been signed up to attend the CWI seminar and test in May here in Albuquerque. So right now I'm in the process of compiling the literature I need to study. I have a copy of D1.1 (from my employer), and what I've gathered so far from reading though the forums, is that the AWS CM (Certification Manual) would be good to study for the D1.1 test. Is that correct?. And I also gather that the WIT-T book is issued at the seminar. Should I be studying both the AWS CM and the WIT-T? Or it the Welding Certification Manual adequate? The reason I ask is, I'm not sure if my employer will dish out the cash for both.
   Next, what things do I need to take to the seminar and testing with me? Do I need fillet weld gages, or any other tools for that matter? Also, what is a good quality brand of fillet weld gages? I prefer to get quality tools right away, rather than buying something cheap and having to replace it anyway.
   BTW, I also have a copy of AWS Welding Science & Technology volume 1, would this book be a beneficial study guide in any way?

I'm sure I will have plenty more questions to ask, but for now if I could get some input from you guys/gals, I would really appreciate it.

Thanks
Jason
Topic CWI Study Materials By pipewelder_1999 Date 02-06-2008 01:12
I never took a CWI class however attended various welding schools and became interested in reading about welding as much as doing it. The self study thing worked for me. I know a couple of guys here in my area that I think would do fine on some self study but they are gonna take the class anyway.

In my opinion
1) You need to know how to use the code.
2) You need to have a very good understanding of welding terms and definitions. Learning these definitions makes learning related topics easier.
3) The AWS Welding Handbook Volume 1 has most if not all of the subject matter on the CWI exam. If you like to just casually pick up a book and read. Thats one to have. I have used it for all three times I have tested by just opening up every once in awhile and randomly picking an area to read.
4) Practice reading questions. Any kind of questions.

If you have on hands experience using the code you should have no problem. On my 2nd exam (Let it lapse after 9) I was informed that the code I was taking was D1.1 instead of B31.1/Sec IX. I never "Studied" that code but used it in my job as QC Manager. I probably did better because I paid closer attention to looking up the answers.

I have thought about making an online survey on my website to gather peoples information about their CWI testing experience and results. I think we could get some interesting information.

Have a nice day

Gerald Austin
http://weldingdata.com/
Topic CWI Study Materials By Lawrence Date 02-05-2008 01:55
Do a search on this forum for CWI Study.. You will find hundreds of folks have asked exactly your question.. And the answers are the best you will find.
Topic CWI Study Materials By Bonfoucaweld Date 02-05-2008 00:24
Hello,
I am interested in acquiring a CWI and would like to know what study materials I should get my hands on.  I have been involved in the steel & welding industry for over 22 years with duties ranging from welder/fitter while a college student, draftsman, purchasing/sales, estimator, project management & shop manager and think it will be a very useful qualification to have. 

Where should I get the materials to start studying for the test? Do I have to memorize all 426 pages of my D1.1 code book?    I am pretty good at studying independently and feel that I can teach myself what I need to know.  I learned drafting in school but taught to use CAD by reading about it.  Do you know of people that have learned the material and passed it by themselves?

Thanks
Topic CWI/CWE exam re testing By dbigkahunna Date 02-03-2008 19:47
One thing you will get from the seminar which will be missing in self study is the interaction with other candidates and a networking opportunity with your peers. The cost of the seminar is pretty much the cost of the self study books. IF you wait until you show up at the seminar to start studying, and are not familliar with the information, the chance, and I do stress chance, of you passing on the first try is marginal. There are a tremendous nuber of resources available if you are waiting for the seminar to get your books to study by. The CWI test is to test your knowledge of welding, welding process and basic metalurgey. It test your ability to use basic welding inspection tools and apply the use of those tools to a "code". You are given a practice code to study before the test, but the test will be different than the study material. THe final test is to measure your knowldege to a specific code. D1.1 or API 1104. If you have the opportunity to attend the seminar, even with Bubba Billy, the interaction and networking will be worth the cost of the course. You never know when someone you meet at one of these things will remember you and give you a call on something which may be the thing that puts you at a new job or opportunity.
My experience in getting my AWS/CWI came from my emploryer who told me to get my CWI. TO them, this is just a little test an with your experience you should pass it. In less than 8 weeks I got the self study material, applied for the nearest date for the test and took the test. I studied 1-2 hours a night 3-4 times a week. Now I have had a CWI certificaton in the past but it lapsed in 1998. I have taken 3 other of these types of test since 1988 when I got my original CWI so I am quite familliar withe the way the test questions are phrased. I passed with scores in the high 80's. And nearly blew it on the practical when I got stuck on two questions and instead of passing on them until I finished the test and went back I took 54 minutes on 2 questions and had to blow through the rest of them to finish within the 2 hours.
I will say there was NO question on the test which was not covered in the material. IF you study the material, undersatnd welding and inspection, this test is passable. BUt just like on a welding test, somedays is just not your day. You blow it, spool up , go home and come back another day.
On the cost, while the materials and test fee seem high, they are in line with the API program. As a budget number, if you pay full freight expect to have invested $5K in this by the time you pass. Is that a lot of money? It all depends on how you value investment in yourself. I know welders who say they want to get their CWI but it cost too much then go out and buy a 4 wheeler. About $5K for a 4 wheeler which will be worth $500 in three years or $5k in a certification which could be worth an additional $10-25K in the same period.
So AWS gets $$$ from it. We all gotta make a living and jut think of all the "special" people they gainfully employ in Miami. I see issues with AWS but also the CWI certification is a worldwide recognized professional level certification. That make is valuable and what you get from the seminar a bonus.
BABRT's  
Topic wondering if I should purchase WIT books before seminar?? By thirdeye Date 01-29-2008 19:16
Bill,

That is the whole point I was making when I mentioned it was a pet peeve.....You register and pay ahead of time for the seminar, but your books are not issued until you arrive at the seminar.  AWS will not send your books to you ahead of time, nor will they break the price of the books out of the price of the "seminar package".  Years ago when I questioned this the answer was along the lines of ....."we want to insure that the seminar participants have the proper material and offer the material in the package deal.  The books are issued at the seminar for this reason".

No doubt, some companies purchase an extra set for their people to use when studying, then allow them to keep the set that comes with the seminar.  Some AWS sections also have study materials and arrange for study groups for preparing for the CWI.

~thirdeye~
Topic CWI/CWE exam re testing By jwright650 Date 01-26-2008 14:26
Lar,
Anyone that tries to say that the forum members do not lend a helping hand or offer advice for studying to take the CWI Exam....hasn't used the search function at all...period.<laziness will not help you pass a 6 hr exam>

If you type in "CWI Exam", you will get 5 pages of hits on this topic....most of which is nothing more than folks asking questions about how to prepare and study for the Exam, and hundreds of replies back from those of us who have passed it and are willing to share the study methods that worked for us. I'm in agreement with you, that does strike a nerve when someone implies that the forum members here haven't tried to help others that are coming along.....
Topic CWI/CWE exam re testing By Lawrence Date 01-26-2008 13:40
David,

Thank you so much for your personal attention and your golden nuggets of wisdom.  I sit at your feet and eagerly await even greater economic epiphanies to emerge from your blessed fingers.

While I wait though; I would like to note that Apple is certainly not the only outfit who is brave enough to go into competition with Microsoft.  There are a number operating platforms out there and their makers are quite rich, and uncounted software programs from database to word processing that many folks prefer to Microsoft offerings.

As far as fathers of economics and how econ is defined by "defined by many sellers and buys." (sic)
Murray Rothbard, Ludwig von Mises,   Walter Williams or anybody else for that matter... If they were to look on the current situation of CWI training. They would find a field rich with opportunity for growth as the government is not restraining that competition in any form.

So your plaintive cry is that there are not enough folks out there to sell you an education (AWS style CWI Exam Prep) is prolly gonna fall on deaf ears due to several facts, one being that a very large minority of CWI's never use the "system" because they garner their education in the old fashioned way of self discipline, self study and work experience.

Nonetheless, back to econ, There are hundreds of AWS section activities that offer CWI training on an ongoing basis to members. Each section also has it's own library complete with every publication necessary for study for the CWI exam. (with the exception of API 1104 so you might have to break down and buy yourself one book).  Then there are the thousands of community and technical colleges who offer advanced welding courses that cover many if not all of the components found on the CWI exam such as, general processes, UT, MT, VT, PT, precision measurement, code interpretation, material behavior/metallurgy and process control, and of course these colleges have fully stocked libraries which are at the disposal of any motivated self starter. 

Now you may not view the examples above as "competition," but they are without a doubt viable ways for interested learners to prepare themselves for the CWI exam.

Besides, as stated by many folks who actually are my betters in this field, the AWS CWI seminars are not designed to make you a CWI and if you expect a week long seminar to get you what you want you will be humbled. 

If you think of yourself as a "buyer" of a CWI credential and the AWS as the "Huge Seller," you may want to reevaluate your paradigm.

Thank you again so much for the personal attention... I will redouble my efforts to "know what I'm talking about"
Topic Weld Symbols By DAVID 2 Date 01-25-2008 17:29
What is the most probable weld symbol on reinforcing steel ?  I am studying for the CWI exam and want to confirm the answer to this question ?

Thanks

Dave
Topic QC-1 By crazycajun Date 01-22-2008 11:55
yeah thats cajun bacon you smell. lol. i have the Welders Inspection Technology text book and i heard several people say that book would be enough to pass the general knowledge part of the exam. do you believe that. i have been reading at least 1 chapter a night sometimes i skip a night but i do read just about every night. and i am going through Real Educational for the exam they said they will send me study material as well, so i guess i should be alright. i am going through the 10 prepatory, being that it has been awhile since i had to study any kind of material for a test, i figured the 10 would help me a lil more. but i am coming out of my pocket with the $$$$ cause if i let the company pay for it they will try and deny me a raise, and say well we just payed for your school, what do you think i should ask for after i get my CWI i told my boss i would not stay for anything less than $25 after i get my CWI what do you guys think i should get?
Topic SCWI By lawrrobe Date 01-15-2008 17:22
I have been a CWI now for 12 years and in the Welding/ Quality business now for 35 years. I have worked in several different industries at several positions (QA/QC manager/analyst/engineer, Welding Educator / CWI Trainer, Welding Instructor, Welding Superintendent, Welding Engineer / Technician, Inspector, Welder, etc.) and products ( I choose not to bore you all with a list) and I am presently working for a company as a Quality Engineer responsible for their welding quality and qualififcation programs (qualifying WPS, welders or welding quality issues). I have decided to upgrade my CWI to the SCWI this year (actually in 3 months). I know that the SCWI is now a (2) 2 hour open book exam covering a host of materials. I have purchased or own all of the reference material given by the AWS as necessary to study for this exam. Like I said previously though, I have a lot of experience. I would love to have any imput from any SCWI on this forum that would be helpful for me to prepare for my upcoming exam. I am not asking for a peek at any exam questions (although I would consider similar questions, if within ethical reasoning). Basically, I would greatly appreciate any guidance from any of you SCWI about your or THE exam experience.

Thanks,
Robert
(no catchy phrase/motto to attach here)
Topic D17.1 section II CWI versus welder By 803056 Date 01-05-2008 15:39
AWS B5.1 outlines the expected capabilities of the associate welding inspector, welding inspector, and the senior welding inspector. It is expected that the senior welding inspector can and should be capable of writing welding procedures. That doesn't say the welding inspector can't write a WPS.

The is no document that I am aware of that states what qualifications are required to write WPSs. There are people in industry that write WPSs and have never taken the AWS CWI examination and still they function very nicely in that capacity. That being said, the training (or studying) one does in preparation for the CWI examination provides a fundamental understanding of what a WPS is and what it should consist of. Most codes and standards that involve welding include a sample form that provides some limited guidance about the (minimum) information the WPS and PQR should contain.

Still, there are enough subtleties in every code that a thorough understanding of their requirements are necessary to write a "good" WPS that is of any use to the welder. Many people that attempt to develop welding documentation haven't mastered the code to the point where all the requirements are met. Even the person tasked with reviewing the WPS has to have a good understanding of what is required and what is "good information" to include in the document. Everyone has their own idea of what should be included in the WPS and PQR. 

I suggest that you obtain a copy of AWS B2.1 and review the list of essential variables and then, with your welding experience in mind, include those things that you feel are necessary for the welder to understand what is expected of him. For instance, it is not required to record some of the electrical parameters such as voltage and amperage when welding up the test coupon, but you and I both know that it is important information for the welder to have when setting up for a new job that he or she may be unfamiliar with. The bottom line is, even if it isn't required information, it is useful information when it is time to write the WPS, so by all means, record it on the PQR.  The WPS should be complete enough that a welder can set up the equipment and the material to weld it and meet the requirements of the welding/fabrication standard.

Best regards - Al
Topic part b of cwi exam By graveyhog Date 01-05-2008 06:02
Can anybody out there elaborate a little more about the question that "CRAZEYCANJUN" was asking on "Part B" on the CWI EXAM. I mean if its not to bold to maybe go a little in depth of how the "HANDS ON"  portion of the sample welds I have read about over the last few years.  I do not want to give nobody the impression that I'am trying to get a freebie.It's the nightmare of waiting to take it this year and I have been studying for forever.I would like to read some real good detailed information like "CRAZEYCANJUN" was asking about like measuring porsity. How would the test be tricky in a question like that. Reason I ask,from old forum question and response were TRICKY QUESTIONS on the part B. I hope AWS does not get affended for asking this type of question.I Read this Forum everyday and I don't respone to questions very little.But  I like the topics and interesting questions and responses from fellow peers.I Have to get that CWI .More $.By the way I was a pipewelder for 22years and decided to make a move.I got out welding because of eyes and artithritis,but its been good to me and I still enjoy it everyonce and while.So guys help a old timer out with some wisdom.
Topic Engineering qualified WI vs. Welder qualified WI By CWI555 Date 01-02-2008 13:23
Hello Garry,

Welcome to the forum. You've got several questions in this post, the members of the forum will have varying opinions but most are not shy about giving them, so here goes mine.

No you do not have to be a welder to be a weld inspector by code. Taking the CWI for instance, the cwi is susposed to have 5 years experience, either in welding or inspection, and can be a mix of the two as well. ASNT SNT-TC-1A does not require welding experience, nor does EN 473, ISO 1072, JS NDI z2305, or any other national or international certification scheme that I am aware of. They do require specific training in inspection, but not welding experience. In this instance your engineer is correct.
Having said that; it is very benificial to have learned how to weld, or learn how to weld for a welding inspector. I came up in the inspection side, and for that same reason, have taken welding courses, and practice at home, but I am an inspector by trade.

As for the WPS, I would have to differ with your engineer in regards to the "ease of preperation", especially when it comes to the pqr.
wps software is only as accurate as the input given, and therefore prone to error. It is always better to know how to write it without crutches. If you do a search on this forum, you will see were many of the long time weld engineers and welders from time to time have problems in this area, Therefore even for the best of the best, there are sometimes challenges in writing a functional pqr/wps.
Copying a wps from a previous project, with the same same criteria is easy, it's when that process/wps goes south and doesn't work that it requires specific knowledge, skill, and education to sort out the problem, and get back into production.

If you want to understand the codes, get a copy of them and study them in detail and in particular pay attention to what is mandatory, and what is commentary. Many times the intent of a given code is found in the commentary.

As for lack of a QA/QC department, it will only take one lawsuit because your contractor wasn't monitored and used the wrong material/process/method etc and the vessel sinks in service for that to change. If the company survives the suit financially, it will cost them dearly. Your statement about engineers who don't know what codes are being used, and leaving it up to the contractor is disturbing. If in fact they are engineers, subcontracting the work, they should as a mimimum know what code they are building to even if it's contract labor. For all they know the contractor could be using farmcode 2002.

My opinion for what it's worth,
Gerald
Topic part b of cwi exam By commonarc Date 01-02-2008 12:25
The footnotes are the killer with the API-1104 book.  I suggest you get a copy of it long before you take the CWI seminar and exam.
Also, buy the Manaul for Welding Inspectors study guide .  Lots of sample tests in the back.  You'll need to know weld symbols.

If you're paying for the exam out of your own pocket, you should really study for several months before taking the exam.
Just my opinion.  I studied for about an hour a day for several months and I passed on the first try but over half the class was taking the test for the second or even third time.
Topic part b of cwi exam By commonarc Date 01-01-2008 14:09
They make a study guide for the code portion of your exam also.  I suggest you get all you can and study.
When I paid the fee for my CWI to schedule the exam, they sent me a copy of the Part B.  This was back in the Spring of 2007.
There is also a visual inspection study guide.  All are available from the AWS store.
Hope this helps.
Topic CWI Exam By huey guillory Date 12-30-2007 15:04
I have taken the CWI exam without going to a seminar. I didn,t pass the 1st time. I have been a welder since 1982. I paid $200 for precourse study material. It was worth the money to a certain degree. I made a 50% on the practical, 70% on API 1104 and 72% on fundamentals. It took me 45 minutes to take each portion. I then went to a Real Educational seminar for one day, it was the last day of the seminar. That day was designated for the Practical or Hans 0n portion, but all they were doing were practicing for the Practical part of the exam. Day wasted. I recently attended the seminar given by the AWS in Baton Rouge, LA. The instructor was Rich Depue. He is also a CWI/CWE, welder and also is a Radiographic Interpreter. He was very informative, easy to understand and a very nice person. He could answer ?'s as fast as you could ask them. If he didn't have the answer, he would find it. Before I retest, I will attend the practical portion of the seminaragain. The test is not stressful, it is the time allowed. Consider this; the AWS seminar cost you around $1000.00. But, the material you get at the seminar is yours to keep. The books you get are worth approximately $600.00. It contains alot of books that you can use as an inspector. Ex: welding symbols, practice tests, terms, definitions,. Here is an idea: go to the AWS seminar, pay attention, especially on the practical part on what is acceptable or rejectable on inspections. This way, if you are not sure, you have the books, the information you learned at the seminar and the time to get outside help, such as going to a NDT/Inspection company that will let you observe testing. Good luck!
Topic CWI Exam By dbigkahunna Date 12-28-2007 23:38
If you have a good background in welding and welding technology, are diciplined in study, and understand code formats, then 2 weeks is pleanty of time to absorb the information to pass the test. THere are too many of us who did inot take a CWI prep class and passed. IT would be interesting for AWS to find out the percentage of those who took a prep class and passed and those who did not and passed. If you have an understanding of welding, inspection and codes, the passing the test should not be a problem. But it takes dicipline to grab those books and put in the study time.
BABRt's
Topic CWI Exam By Joseph P. Kane Date 12-28-2007 14:00
Milton

I took their course in 1992.  I wasn't sure if I would need it or not.  Even though I was not a CWI, I taught the CWI course in my local AWS Section.  I had the money, so to me the UT review part was worth it.  However, In the end, they didn't have a very good UT review and the only advantage to me was that it was a confidence builder. 

Hobart Institute taught the subject in the first week, but the second week seemed like a cram course on the examination.  I would recommend the two week course, if you have the money to spare, of if you are unsure.  If you legitimately have the welding to a code, and other experience, and you can force yourself to read those books, twenty pages a night, several times over, and then take the Hands-On AWS Training, you can pass the examination without any other course.

In another string on the forum, one comment stood out to me.  The entry made a remark about so many of the people in the class who didn't seem to have a clue.  I recently ran into several people who do not meet the experience requirements, but who are going to lie about it, and take the examination. ( I'll be waiting for two of them with an ethics charge after they make the AWS richer by a couple of grand.)

So, I would recomment the Hobart Institute Two Week Course, without reservation to anyone who can afford it.  If you go there, plan on studying every night and on the weekend.  Do not watch TV, and do not go sight seeing. (Except maybe to the Air Farce Museum in Dayton.)  Make sure you have the recommended books before you go there, and read those books every day for as long as you can before you go

Joe Kane.
Topic CWI Exam By Superflux Date 12-27-2007 23:21
Apollogize for not being informed on the AWS and Hobart. The point I should have emphasized is that make sure the prerequisites (application and eye exam) detailed in QC1 are folowed so you know it is an AWS CWI. I know of a couple of Tech Schools that give students mock/outdated CWI exams and there has been a misunderstanding as to the graduate's inspector status. Just remember, no matter what school you attend, one is always self educated. There is no substitute for diligante study. "Chance favors the prepared"! Good luck on your test. They do throw out the darndest questions!!!

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