Guess that wont work with you this time,lol

Actually, i did get a new welder this year, and when the other guys started complaining they bought 2 more welders.
we also got a robotic arm cell to do alot of the programmable welding!
If they fire my boss for too much spending, I'll send him your way!

Maybe Somone could set up a fund, " Stingers for the stingy" or "Electrode holders for the homeless"
I will donate a used Tweco tite

Ive never had any fittings or pipe crack on me yet. 5p on the root hot and fill, and 70 or 80+ on the cap. Using a weed burner to prep works good for me. The 70+ is still pliable enough in the cold. Fortunately most of my stuff is going 6+ feet under ground as well. Every tie in is doped, taped, insulated, and heat traced to keep things from freezing from the inside out.

I know that the wind is also a serious factor in the temp of the steel. Only on jobs that are absolutely imparative to get done will I go out at very extreme temps. If I do, I write in caps on my invoices - " No work guaranteed at extreme temperatures". The clients are the ones that make the judgement call after that..........

Guess I responded to the wrong thread...oh well.