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- - By magesh (*) Date 06-25-2015 22:55
Dear All,

     We had run the repair rail welding procedure 2 days back. we were using the following detail for the repair rail welding Procedure.

1. Originally welded by Aluminuthermic welding Process

2. Repair by SMAW Process ON THE ALUMINUTHERMIC WELDING

3. MATERIAL : AUSTENITIC MANAGANESE STEELS

3. 1G Position Build up Method

4  Maximum 7 layer to build - up with 11 to 12 beads wide.

5.Electrode diameter : E 18 8 Mn R 3 2  4mm dia (METRODE)

6.Brand:  METRODE

6.Pre heat 260-300 degree C

7.Current : 165 A

8.Voltage : 25V

9. Travel Speed : 120 mm/min

10.Heat Input 2.0 KJ/MM

11. Inter pass temp 220 - 240

But we find the crack in edge of  weld  Please find the attached  photos .

Where we are lacking ? what we do?  How to avoid the this cracking .

Need for your help.

Thanks
Parent - By Jarhead1 (**) Date 06-26-2015 13:37
Mag,
My first experience with manganese - Very challenging material to work with to say the least, but who doesn't like a challenge:)
What percent Manganese are you trying to weld? Is there a D15.1 spec you need to follow.

This procedure below I have found works for us after many days of trial and error for 11-14% Manganese plate. Although, we are welding manganese to A36. Currently we are using FCAW 309L wire. We have high production runs. Ok per spec.

Important: Holding at start of weld and back filling at end of weld creating a button prevented a good percent of our cracking issues.
Takes some practice...

Manganese-
Fitup on materials need to be tight as possible.
If it is excessively heated during fabrication or welding, grain growth and carbide precipitation rapidly occur leading to serious embrittlement and cracking.

In general the welding shall proceed from the center to the open edges of the plate, keeping heat to a minimum and the work should never be hotter than can be 400F before the next run is deposited in that area. Consider also that long stages at temperatures higher than 300°C (570°F) induce carbide precipitations which strongly decrease toughness and non-magnetism property.

General Recommendations: Welding is performed with low heat
Welding is performed with low heat input – interpass temperature limited to about 100°C (2 10°F) – with water-cooling between each pass if necessary. Peening by use of a needle gun or similar should be carried out immediately the arc is extinguished.

Heterogeneous welds: (Main practice):
For manual arc welding:

- weld deposit design 18Cr8Ni6Mn per AWS A5.4.E307

- weld deposit design 20Cr10Ni3Mo per AWSA5.4E308Mo

- AWS: E312-16 probably your best choice

GMAW

- solid wire – ER 309 Mo per AWS ER312 (we had no luck using 309 solid wire with many cracks)

- flux cored wire – 309L

Safety - Wear a respirator.

Good luck!!
Parent - By ssbn727 (*****) Date 07-12-2015 11:06
A bit off topic, but you'll understand.:lol::yell::twisted::yell::eek::wink::eek:

Did you see this safety or lack of safety awareness video yet John?

https://i.imgur.com/oQSQIqb.gifv

Respectfully,
Henry
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