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- - By jerry6004 (*) Date 12-29-2006 20:26
Is it ok to type in the interpreted by name on the paperwork vs having the person sign each one?  The RT reader sheet has the signature.

If is OK to type in name are there any space where a signature is required?
Parent - By CWI555 (*****) Date 12-29-2006 22:20
If Im not mistaken Section V article II should have your answer.
Parent - - By Richard Cook (**) Date 04-03-2008 14:50
yes, it is good to make reference to the RT report number. Some people do not have access to ASME Section V article II, then that code is not used in all industries.

The signature of the CWI and his stamp should certify review and verification of the information entered on the WPQR. And as long as you keep the record on file, this is all that would be needed.
Parent - By Richard Cook (**) Date 04-03-2008 14:53
Note
Remember this is a certification by the employer and there should be an authorized individual to sign the bottom line, it could be a CWI or the individual authorized by the program of the employer.
Parent - - By CHGuilford (****) Date 04-03-2008 16:31
I see no reason you could not type in the radiographer's name, or company, or report number.  The person signing the WQTR is certifying the testing and results meet the requirements, so that person is stating the RT results were acceptable, based on the report supplied by another.

Naturally, you should retain the reader sheet to support the WQTR, but I do not recall that D1.1 says you actuallyhave to do even that.  Neither does it state the test administrator on even the certifying person must be CWI's.

Regardless, we need to remember that the records must assure the customer that the welder is qualified for the work s/he is going to do.  Easy to understand records, with the back-up documentation attached, will speed the approval process. 
And of course, the contract could be more stringent than D1.1, so taking the high road is easier in the long run.
Parent - By pipewelder_1999 (****) Date 04-04-2008 13:07
Here is the text from D1.1 2006

4.21 Preparation of Performance Qualification Forms

          ......
          The Welding Performance Qualification Record (WPQR) shall serve as written verification and shall list all of the applicable essential variables of          4.12. suggested forms are found in Annex N.


The word "signature" only occured once that I could find in D1.1. That was in reference to NDE forms. In comparison to some of the other forms, the welder performance qualification "sample" does not have a code required spot for a "Signature" that indicates a signature is required as it does on the back of a pqr. Both forms have a statement referring to ... the undersigned...  . If you compare the WPQ form with that of the WPS/PQR, the WPS/PQR indicates the need for a signature as supported by a specific line that says "Signed _______________________ "  "

I cannot say what this indicates as the intention. The fact that some forms have a location for "Signed" and some do not could be confusing. An individual companies quality system would typically address documentation approval requirements.

Anyone here on the code committee that could expand on the differences in signature references on forms?

Have a nice day

Gerald Austin
weldingdata.com
Parent - - By pipewelder_1999 (****) Date 04-03-2008 22:39 Edited 04-03-2008 22:42
As indicated by others, there is no requirement to have the Radiographer sign the records. The "RT performed by" is not even required. Just the variables for the test and test results. The ASME 484 is a "Suggested Format". There is no record keeping requirement beyond that as far as ASME Sec IX goes. An individual companies quality system or customer requirements may often add to what has been decided as acceptable by the various code comittees.

When the manufacturer certifies the welder, all supporting documentation up to that point is not required (Reader Sheets, Film, Bend Test Specimens, Reports of Bend Tests, etc..)  Some inspectors have requested these documents, some without cause, some with cause. Either way, it was not a requirement for their job. I have had to make sure that salesmen and project managers etc.. have not agreed to this additional documentation before explaining that it was not required.

Parent - By Richard Cook (**) Date 04-04-2008 12:10
Amen
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