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- - By JTMcC (***) Date 03-17-2007 16:01
Someone calling themselfs "rafter g welding", from Jourdanton, Texas, is selling this list, taken directly from my website (including every crease and smudge) on ebay for $2 per copy.
Anyone wnting to know the year of their old Lincoln should feel free to take a look, for free, here:

http://www.firstratefabricators.com/page10.html

Work must be slow in Jourdanton if guys are resorting to selling copyrighted material (and electronically transmiting it) for two bucks a pop.

JTMcC.
Parent - - By yorkiepap (***) Date 03-18-2007 01:24
Hey JT,
You are entitled to take legal action thru the Interstate Commerce Comm., Patents & Copyright Office, and a formal complaint to E-Bay. This is nothing more than Theft by Unlawful Taking and since it is possibly interstate transactions, this is a felony. I would engage a lawyer and file a suit for infringement and give this person a taste of the legal system. You know, a thief and liar have no honor.....Denny
Parent - - By ecclecticiron Date 03-19-2007 19:51
Wish I had know this before. I don't deal on ebay so I had one bought for me. sheet of paper with numbers on it: $2 usd,   shipping: $1.50 usd,    buyers fee: $4 usd,    convert to canadian funds: $9.60,     Finding out you've been screwed: priceless.
Parent - By chris2698 (****) Date 03-19-2007 21:17
dang that stinks sad people will stoop this low to earn a buck
Parent - - By texas55 (*) Date 03-19-2007 22:26
thanks for the free info ,I got your list about a year ago ,some people have no class.If he cant work he must not be a very good welder
Parent - - By JTMcC (***) Date 03-19-2007 22:46
Not only is it theft of copyrighted material, it's also electronically transmiting copyrighted material as he emailed the list to those that bought it. Federal felony via the interstate commerce thing.

Anyone who paid for the list, I would appreciate if you emailed me the details at:

firstratefab@citlink.net

JTMcC.
Parent - By ecclecticiron Date 03-20-2007 11:48
I bought mine off ebay through an ebay seller. He buys and sells for people not registered on ebay with a small fee. The information was mailed to him regular mail on a sheet of yellow paper. thats all I've got, probably won't help much.
Parent - By yorkiepap (***) Date 03-26-2007 00:55
Hey JT,
Just a note to say "rafter g welding" has recent posts on Penton Welding magazine "Equipment For Sale" forum and signs off as "SHAD". You should give him a taste of the "Unfairness Pill" to see if he could swallow it....Denny
Parent - By Root Pass (***) Date 03-23-2007 04:09
raftergwelding is a poster on this forum. You might try to PM him.
Parent - By raftergwelding (*****) Date 04-01-2007 19:47
In my own defense. I recieved the list via email from a friend in Corpus Christi texas. I was unaware that it was availble on a webitesite muchless your website until i read this listing. I didnt even know you had a website until i read this listing. I am not a thief and i can weld just as good as any other man out there. I do not need to steal as you call it material and sell it on ebay to make a living. So i did the right thing and refunded all sales of the auction on ebay in which only 2 sold. I can only hope that this will resolve all issues you have with me. I AM SORRY I DID NOT KNOW THE LIST WAS YOURS. Or available on your website.
Parent - - By jkin (**) Date 04-02-2007 19:19
The list is avaliable to anyone on the lincoln website, and they are the sole owners not any one person. No telling how many copies I've made for people in the last 15 or 20 years.
Parent - By JTMcC (***) Date 04-02-2007 20:33
The list is posted, for the free use of anyone interested, on my website. The wrinkled, smudged page that I scanned for my site is clearly the page that was being sold. The information doesn't belong to me, but the image taken from my copywrited website does. Selling that image (or any other image from my website) is illegal. Electronically transmiting the image for a profit is another violation of the law. Me posting it for people to reference at no cost is completely legal.

The information itself is from Lincoln of course. You can't legally sell any of the copyrighted material Lincoln gives out free. You can disperse that information at no cost.

That's my understanding and it's pretty simple really.

JTMcC.
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