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- - By pipeliner01 (**) Date 12-29-2007 20:49
I was wondering if anybody on here could give me some info on the type of steel shipping containers are made of.  Years ago I welded some coat racks into one and there was a sticker on the wall that said "repair with corten steel only", just wondering if this is some kind of marketing BS or if it's actually some kind of funky alloy or something.  Reason being is that I was looking at shipping containers for a design idea in the works, and need to know if I can conventionally cut and weld on it, i.e: 7018, 70S mig wire, and welding mild steel components in.  Any and all help is greatly appreciated.
Parent - - By Superflux (****) Date 12-29-2007 21:34
Corten was developed bt the U.S. Navy for submarine hulls. It is a "weathering steel" used on bridges and exposed surfaces not requiring paint because the rust forms a protective layer. 7018 will do just fine for attachment welds. You can get Corten stock at http://a588a572steel.com
Parent - By pipeliner01 (**) Date 12-30-2007 00:23
thanks superflux, that helps a bunch, and I'd figure there musn't be very much trouble with mild steel welded to it except for the fact that it would have to be painted.
Parent - - By ssbn727 (*****) Date 12-30-2007 02:52
Hi Superflux!

Not to sound like a "know it all" but, you must be thinking about HY-80 Steel instead of Corten steel which is a "weathering" steel... The grades are: A 242 ("Cor-Ten A") from the ASTM International standards group. Newer ASTM grades are A 588 ("Cor-Ten B") and A 606 for thin sheet.

Here are some links that pertain to "Cor-Ten" steel:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weathering_steel
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:COR-TEN-Steel
http://www.aisc.org/MSCTemplate.cfm?Section=Steel_Interchange2&Template=/CustomSource/Faq/SteelInterchange.cfm&FaqID=2311
http://www.ussconstruction.com/metal/metal/corten.shtml
http://www.thyssenkrupp-steel.com/grobblech/uk/produkte/cor_ten/anwendungen.jsp

You could be thinking about HPS otherwise known as High Performance Steel which was co-developed by the US Navy (Carderock Division of US Naval Surface Warfare Center) and AISI (American Iron & Steel Institute).
It's different from a weathering steel such as the Cor-Ten brand... Here's an AISI abstract from their own website:
http://www.steel.org/AM/Template.cfm?Section=High_Performance_Steel&Template=/TaggedPage/TaggedPageDisplay.cfm&TPLID=34&ContentID=9196

Here's some more information on "HY-80 & HY-100 steels which you may also be describing, how and when they were first used on US nuclear submarines:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/deep.htm
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/ssn-688.htm
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/ssn-21.htm
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/slbm/ssbn-726.htm
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/nssn.htm
http://books.google.com/books?id=lkuTWiE5TBwC&pg=PA274&lpg=PA274&dq=%22hy+80%22+steel&source=web&ots=hquA3wZJcS&sig=L1QKwUGBFPeRZH5UIkXscPOEKsM
http://www.aws.org/cgi-bin/mwf/topic_show.pl?tid=92
http://www.weldingmag.com/323/Issue/Article/False/68983/Issue
http://www.navy.mil/navydata/cno/n87/usw/issue_31/albacore.html
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/ssn-594.htm

Enjoy the reading!!!

Respectfully,
Henry
Parent - - By webbcity (***) Date 12-30-2007 05:53
henry , thanks for all the info. nice pictures . ? do you know where the last picture with mountains was at ? looks familiar . thanks again for all the nice things that you do on the forum . good luck . willie
Parent - - By ssbn727 (*****) Date 12-30-2007 17:05
Hi Willie!

I knew someone like you would be familiar with the location!!! It's the U.S.S. Michigan (SSBN727) somewhere off the coast of Alaska.

The first picture is also of the U.S.S. Michigan at USN Submarine Base,  Bangor, Washington... As one can see, some of the crew are raising the colors!!!

The second picture is of the U.S.S. Michigan being degaussed at night... However, I cannot tell whether or not it's being performed at Bangor or Kings Bay?

The third picture is of the U.S.S. Pittsburgh (SSN696), a Los Angeles class attack boat, showing some of the crew on top of the "conning tower" or sail even though it does'nt operate as such when it's above the surface... Amongst them is no other than the former quarterback of the Pittsburgh Steelers who has an amazing four Super Bowl Championship rings, Terry Bradshaw!!! He's furthest to the right, wearing the submarine's baseball style cap, and sunglasses underneath, and to the right of the sailors who are both scanning the horizon with their binoculars.

The fourth picture is of the U.S.S. Pittsburgh's conning tower or sail again but this time, they're arriving back at Norfolk, VA after a successful tour of duty during operation "Iraqi Freedom".

As I'm writing this response to you, on the television set "Henry is talking to George Styckle, explaining to him that he's turned into a fish in the the Movie: "The Incredible Mr. Limpet!" I just thought I'd mention it ;)

Respectfully,
Henry
  
Parent - - By MBSims (****) Date 12-30-2007 18:20
I'm more familiar with these:
Parent - - By pipeliner01 (**) Date 12-30-2007 21:33
wow, those subs are huge, my uncle took me down in one of the old oberon class subs, talk about compact, if memory serves me they were 32 cyl. diesel electric, I'll never get over the smell.
Parent - By RockerB (**) Date 12-31-2007 03:45
I was in the navy in the early 90's, but could never even consider getting on anything DESINGED TO SINK!!
Parent - By Superflux (****) Date 01-02-2008 02:59
Or....I could have not been thinking at all !!! But, thanks for all the information. I'll just take my spanking, lick the wounds, curl up in the corner and finish reading all the material you directed me to.
Parent - By Bob Garner (***) Date 01-02-2008 18:45
Henry,

I would bet the night degaussing shot was in Bangor?  It just doesn't look like King's Bay.  I don't recall the wood walkways or that cross-over walk on the left side at King's Bay.

BTW, we finished the design of the MSF for Beckoning Point in HI.  Now to find a contractor.

Happy New Year.

Bob G.
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