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- - By toddler (**) Date 01-06-2008 05:45
We've been doing this heat treatment for years on CS and chrome alloys but until now, I don't have a solid background how the process works:

1.  What are the metallurgical changes or activitities transpiring during heating, soaking, and cooling.
2.  How does internal stress "relieved"?
3.  How does ductility restored or improved?
4.  What is the danger if we heat or cool it faster than allowed by the code?
Parent - - By js55 (*****) Date 01-18-2008 17:39 Edited 01-18-2008 17:56
I was gonna hit the HAZ thread but after reading the responses there wasn't a whole lot to add.
Nobody is hittin this one so I'll take a stab, though jon's apporach in the HAZ thread is apt. This is a big question requiring more specificity to provide more specificity. But there are some generalities we can tackle. And note that my language will be metallurgically crude to the point of some innacuracy but I hope it conveys the what happens.
1) Metals wil not demonstrate the same tensile strength at high temp that they do at low temp, generally, and so welds in stress will yield at high temp, eliminating the stress. This is crude but I think generally accurate.
2) Upon heating carbon begins to move and carbides begin to precipitate (combining with metallic elements such as Cr and Mo) removing carbon from solution. Carbon is an interstitial strengthening element.
3) In some alloys this will happen with nitrogen as well precipitating carbonitrides (such as Grade 91).
4) Ductility is restored for the same reason that strength is often reduced depending upon that alloy. See above.
5) Heating and cooling rates and any damage therefrom depend upon the alloys. Each alloy has certain rates of cooling associated with certain transformation products (martensite, bainite, acicular ferrite etc.-related to alloy content, especially carbon) that are related to the hardenability of the material.

This is just the tip of the iceburg, and again very crude. There are some really good books out there that can do a far far better job of explanation than achievable in here for such a huge question.
Parent - By js55 (*****) Date 01-18-2008 17:54 Edited 01-18-2008 17:56
Good lord! I need to edit my posts. Done.
Parent - - By gwg (*) Date 01-24-2008 18:03
You can Google "post weld heat treatment of carbon and low alloy steels" to obtain a wealth of information as to what metallurgical changes ocurr during the application of thermal treatment.

To answer you last question,
"4.  What is the danger if we heat or cool it faster than allowed by the code? "

Heating or cooling outside of code recommended ramp rates will result in thermal gradients that translate to thermal stresses in components. These stresses, if severe enough and tensile in magnitude, can result in cracking or severe distortion. Also, depending on the alloy composition of the metal, harmful phases can be formed, like untempered martensite that could result in poor toughness.
Parent - By js55 (*****) Date 01-25-2008 14:56
gwg makes good points. And as we've said in many other threads you have to understand your alloy. You mentioned chrome alloys. This is a huge family with individual characteristics. Many critical. Anything from 1/2 Cr to Grade 91's or 92's. Some with low carbons like Grade 22 and some with higher cabon like some of the Earopean high temp Cr alloys. Some with ferrite/bainite mixes, some with almost total martensite, as intended mircrostructures.
Chrome alloys are often supplied in the normalized or normalized and tempered condition. Normalizing being an homogenizing treatment above upper transformation and then cooling in still air. A pretty rapid cooling rate (nothing like normalizing cooling cycles on cold Virginia winter nights-emphasis on poppin the furnace and runnin the pipe out to cool in the still shop air). This cooling rate is much faster than anything allowed by code for welded assemblies. Heating rates, in my opinion are more problematic since the microstucture has not been relieved yet. And thickness differentials enter into the thinking (especially the extreme of block forgings) as well when it comes to welded assemblies.The code maximums are global in thinking. There is no replacing doing your homework.
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