i assuming you mean the pipepro 304, i run one up here in ND works great, cons- 3 months ago the mother board went to crap, still under warrany so that was cool they gave me a demo 2007 200d and i was glad to get my pipepro back maybe that helps .... shannon
i just dont get it okie boomer. your failing to answer your own question..IF IT AINT BROKE DONT FIX IT. your old SA 200 strikes up at a slow 20 hertz. the new invertor machine pipe pro 304, strikes up hot at 50HZ. just like all them little miller machines,,,thatll for sure blow your walls down on that bead,,,especially the top quarter. My buddy uses both a 200 and a 304. he pipelines half a year in new mexico and uses his 304 for his refinery work. he welds chrome incanel and aluminum with his pipe pro,,,respecfully so. his only complaints with the pipe pro are 1. its blue. 2, when he runs beads with 5p,,for some reason that machine will lock up on a jam up instead of push through like a 200. also,,the welder repair man said the worst engine to get with any of these new machines is that deutz motor your talking about. he works on those more than anything. they make a pipe-pro 304 with a 3cyl kubota,,id look into that if your really wanted one
pipeliner04 - You posted that an SA200 "strikes up at 20 Hz". Can You explane this to Me?
the welder rapair guy here in odessa, some of you may know him some of you may not, Chris's Welder repair expalined to me why when you fire up with a lincoln ranger or miller bobcat/trailblazer theyre so hott. i dont now much about hz and electricity as far as thats concerned but when you first strike an arc with one of the above machines it makes sense. im guessing (speaking in terms of using them) that 20hz of electricity is colder than 50hz. you know on an old 200 when you strike arc to idle up and then burn a rod it stays the same heat the whole way down the pipe. well what i noticed on the ranger i used that about the first 2 inches of every rod i burnt was hotter than the rest of the rod. im thinking that that inverter stores energy somehow and releases that extra energy at first. im not real sure but the way he explained it to me it made perfect sense. if anyone else can clarify this a little better for the both of us we'd appreciate it.but i hope what i said was helpful
Pipeliner are you from Odessa? I grew up south of there and did some contract work there a couple of years ago. Chris's is one of the best welder repairshops I have ever been to.
yea im from midland actually but yea chris is in odessa
Pipeliner04: Hz in electricity refers to the frequency of an alternating current [AC] cycle, or how many cycles there are per second. This term is inapropriate when discussing direct current [DC].
A rod burning hotter in the beginning is often due to increasing electrical resistance as something heats up as You weld. With the control circutry in those new fangled machines there could be other reasons as well, and I won't hazard a guess as to what might be happening.
The guy may have given You a believable reason, but His description was technically incorect.
Just to add on the Deutz, knew a guy with a new Miller Du-Op. Had a terrible time with the Deutz engine in it. Had idle problems, then it wouldn't start well after it got warm. He got it repaired under warranty & while I was working for him, we did CAC with 3/8" carbons @500 amps all day long with out a hitch. I still don't trust those pesky inverters though! One serious out of warranty electronic repair could be near the cost of a entry level used SA 200 (Maybe real used, but still...) Miller doesn't repair boards, they just replace them. Gets real expensive that way.
Just a heads up for folks with machines out of warranty. Industrial Electronics in Gastoina, NC repairs boards of nearly all makes for 1/3 of new & guarantees them for 90 days. Nice people.
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Just thought I would pass that along. They have been good to me. S.W.
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