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- - By KSellon (****) Date 07-11-2008 20:59
code#5642 call Syd Duke 405-203-4134
Completely overhauled and updated $6500 all warranties transfer to new owner.

May2008: complete engine overhaul, new mounts, rebuilt magneto, new radiator and hoses, new armature bearing, new plug wires, OEM idler upgrade, remote pigtail, new hood and doors with hardware, starter overhaul, new alternator, safety gauges  and thermostat.
Parent - - By sbcmweb (****) Date 07-11-2008 21:24 Edited 07-11-2008 21:26
Kaye, is that control panel in the background off of one of lincolnbobekin's machines? It has those fancy gun cylinder adjustment knobs on it. He was selling some refurbed SA's on ebay, but not anymore. I heard he just paints them up, does no work on the motors. Talked to a couple guys that bought one & had it die quickly after. Just wondered.  S.W.

BTW, Nice redface. Will make someone a happy camper.
Parent - - By KSellon (****) Date 07-12-2008 16:33
yes it is- the customer bought it in January, completely overhauled for $5500. He brought it in to me in May for engine overhaul, blown governor and the sediment bowl fall out of the fuel tank. I don't know much about Lincoln Bobenkin and don't care to since his not on my payroll. The cylinders are plastic, I thought they'd be metal, oh well.
Parent - - By sbcmweb (****) Date 07-12-2008 16:40
Wow. I heard he just paints them up. Too bad for the owner. Plastic cylinders?? He wants over $100 for a set. Rip off! Just wondered on it. Thanks Kaye. Steve
Parent - - By KSellon (****) Date 07-14-2008 13:08
Lincoln Bobekins paint jobs are clean, down to metal and then painted. If you are looking for bling--he has the time to do it.

All shops have trash talked about them, ours included. LB puts out alot of machines, this is the only one I have heard about. If you buy something without warranty, then there is no room for argument.
Parent - - By jrw159 (*****) Date 07-15-2008 14:20
K,
  If you have time would it be possible to post a link to info on the plastic cylinders that were discussed?

I did some searches and came up empty.

This is just for my curiosity, so don't kill a bunch of time or anything.

Thanks,
jrw159
Parent - - By Root Pass (***) Date 07-15-2008 15:13
I don't think they are talking about plastic cylinders and pistons. I think Lbob sells plastic revolver cylinders for the knobs on the control panel. he mentions how expensive they would be if machined from metal.
Parent - - By jrw159 (*****) Date 07-15-2008 15:29
Thank you for clarifying that for me. I WAS LOST!!

Now this is making some sense to me. LOL

Boy do I feel dumb. :-)

jrw159
Parent - - By rockin d (**) Date 07-15-2008 20:41
u ain't the only one hahaha
Parent - - By jrw159 (*****) Date 07-15-2008 20:45
Yeah, and I am not even blonde. LOL :-)

jrw159
Parent - - By rockin d (**) Date 07-15-2008 20:47
i was going to write that, but did'nt want to offend anybody .
Parent - By jrw159 (*****) Date 07-15-2008 20:57
I hope everyone understands that it is just a joke. :-)

Besides, one of the smartest people on this forum is blonde. K LOL

Anyone who truly believes that being blonde makes one less intelligent needs to meet K.

jrw159
Parent - By KSellon (****) Date 07-15-2008 17:31
I can't imagine the cost. I don't know why I was expecting metal...
Parent - - By KSellon (****) Date 07-15-2008 17:30
www.lincolnbobekin.com
Parent - By jrw159 (*****) Date 07-15-2008 17:34
Thanks K. :-)
Parent - - By jrw159 (*****) Date 07-12-2008 17:27 Edited 07-12-2008 18:35
Proof positive that you can learn something new everyday if you just pay attention. I had NO idea there was such an animal as plastic cylinders.

Thanks K, I am going to do a search on these and check it out. :-)

jrw159
Parent - - By chris2698 (****) Date 07-12-2008 18:15 Edited 07-12-2008 18:21
Holy sh*t PLASTIC CYLINDERS ????? I sent him a message and asked what they were made out of aluminum and he didn't want to say I knew something was fishy about that guy  LOL what a freaking scammer I'm not at all impressed with his work cheap garbage you can see he repaints over the orginal paint it just doesn't look clean at all. Poor guy that bought it from him it looked really nice on his truck glad I didn't get as burned as him from getting mine off ebay. I still say buy one that needs to be completely redone and fully redo it yourself or have Kaye do it.

Kaye how much do you sell a hood foram a little currious?? about 300??
Parent - - By KSellon (****) Date 07-12-2008 19:37
NEW OEM ROOF FROM LINCOLN L3384 $220.00
Parent - By chris2698 (****) Date 07-12-2008 22:17
220 not bad
Parent - By sbcmweb (****) Date 07-15-2008 15:58
They're for sale on ebay John. Look under Lincoln in Business & Industrial, you'll find them. S.W.
Parent - - By snuffman (***) Date 07-12-2008 18:46
What year is it?
Parent - - By KSellon (****) Date 07-12-2008 19:46
sN: a538*** LATE 1966. I have to give it to Lincoln Bobenkin on the machine torn down in our shop he did sand it down. I will post pics later
Parent - - By lincolnbobekin (**) Date 07-13-2008 02:58
The dials are made of polyurethane-they make engine gears out of the same stuff. the cap and treads and interskeleton are metal.
polyurethane is a polymer thermoplastic -water cant hurt it and it is a great heat and electrical insulator.
   metal dials of the same shape can be made for about $250 a piece and they still have to be chromed and polished-I really dont see people out there spending $600 dollars for a set of metal dials-when a set of $100 chrome dials look just as good and will last a long time.
Its a good deal.
  
Parent - - By KSellon (****) Date 07-14-2008 13:09
bring by a metal set Ron-- I'd like to see them.
Parent - - By lincolnbobekin (**) Date 07-16-2008 16:15
My Cousin is a machinist in Newcastle and we have discussed making them. He is the guy who quoted me the price. He told me that it would be made out of a single chunk of metal with the exception of the bullet itself and his price per single piece is $250 but the piece still has to be chromed-So lets say that we have a Chrome shop Do the chrome and polish $50 and then we have to pay for the bullets and the redtip 300s that everybody likes 2.50 a  piece. that comes to 302.50 per piece and of course I would like to make money for my time and trouble.   Even at the cost-not the price that I would want it would be $605 for a set of dials
Me,Myself and I (all 3 of us) do not have a metal set in possession because Me,Myself and I did not want to fork out the Dough-which would include the set up cost-probably $500 extra for the first one.  if the cylinder was straight with no dimensions it would be much cheaper-all that stuff has to be drilled cut etc.
Kay, I wish I had a set to throw out there.
Thanks for the up talk.
Ps.Check out my hood with louvers (much more worthy conquest)for a shorthood  and i got a long hood with a overhang on the way.
Parent - By KSellon (****) Date 07-16-2008 19:04
I love the new roof Ron----are you keeping the design exclusive to yourself?????

Like I said I don't know why I thought they'd be metal. I guess I thought you had a surplus on revolvers and just had the cylinders chromed.

I wish I had the time to step out of the OEM mindset... bling bling and more bling
Parent - - By Root Pass (***) Date 07-16-2008 19:19
LBob,
I like those sliding doors you make. Great idea.
Parent - - By lincolnbobekin (**) Date 07-17-2008 02:19
Thanks I have a set of sliding doors that are going onto the same shorthood as the roof with louvers-the doors have louvers also
and they match the hood -heres a picture of em .between the hood and doors it will have 128 LOUVERS -it will be a bad boy when i get the shiny paint on er.  I have a lot of new stuff coming out this year. yes the sliding door was a great improvement all alone.nobody could get the door open so they would discard the cab side door so they could be responsible and check the oil.sliding doors on a regular flatbed can  simply be pushed back enough to get the dipstick out and then closed so the welder will get the cooler air on the other end of the welder.It made sense to me and they look cool to.thanks for the compliment.  I did believe it was the most practical design.
Parent - - By millerman (**) Date 07-25-2008 22:54
linc how much for the lowvered short hood  hood
Thanks
Mac
Parent - By lincolnbobekin (**) Date 07-26-2008 01:42
That one has already been sold-   I am selling regular hoods(with the overhang)for $275  Louvers can run the price up a lot-there is a set up charge then a price per louver-the the price for the 16 louver hood and 96 louver sliding doors with louvers was about $600-since there was a lot of louvers-It was only about $3 per louver.  If there are less louvers(lets say 8 or 16) the price for each louver is higher becuase of the initial set up charge. We can make them anyway that you want-If you want watercut letters or designs-we can do it. And if you have a idea,give me a call and we will see what it will cost. that hood and doors is gone but we will make more.
Ps.I have a long hood with a overhang available for $275 right now
Parent - - By Sharp Tungsten (**) Date 07-25-2008 20:45
No offense but I believe your cousin is way off in price calculation. One cylinders ain't that expensive to make when your making an actual fitted and timed revolver cylinder. So I doubt that a welders control knob is more complex of a fit up. And two you can buy used or new cylinders from ruger for way cheaper than that and probably get them chromed for 20 to 30 dollars if you have enough quantity to justify it. II am not just arguing sir but I am also a certified gunsmith with a Master rating from Pennslyvania School of Gunsmiths. Also used to be a machinist so I know a little about that too. They kind of go hand in hand.
Parent - - By lincolnbobekin (**) Date 07-26-2008 02:32
That makes perfect sense- and thanks for stepping in to talk about my cousins prices on the machine work. If you can-when you get some time-give me a call Ron 405-209-8926.    
Parent - - By DaveBoyer (*****) Date 07-26-2008 03:48
      Linc: If You end up having cylinders machined from aluminum You might check into anodising rather than chrome plating. Aluminum and chrome are far apart in the galvanic series, so corosion can become an issue. The chrome will greatly acelerate the corosion if a nick, scratch or a pore in the plating gives it a place to start. Pure water would not cause this, but acid rain, road salt or sea air will.
Parent - - By lincolnbobekin (**) Date 07-27-2008 19:10
Thanks Dave,I will check into it -yes corrosion is a big issue and the actual weight of the cylinder( they are about 4 inches long)has been an issue -   Does anodised Aluminum have a long life? what is the look(shiny,flat,silver?) It would definitely be light enough.
Parent - - By DaveBoyer (*****) Date 07-28-2008 02:19
   Link, Anodising is an oxide layer, it can be clear or colors, clear over polished would be pretty shiney, flat silver is pretty common. Some colors tend to fade in extreme sunlight over time, others are pretty stable. Type 3 hardcoat can be done to look like weathered bronze and is extremely durable.
Parent - By lincolnbobekin (**) Date 07-28-2008 03:40
Thanks
Parent - By lincolnbobekin (**) Date 07-13-2008 03:44
www.lincolnbobekin.com
Parent - - By pypLynr (***) Date 07-19-2008 00:58
Kaye, do you still have this machine?  Please give me a call ... Keith Armentrout  830-385-2102
Parent - - By KSellon (****) Date 07-19-2008 16:21
yes sir I do -- But you should call and speak with Syd (the owner). He is honest and trustworthy.
Parent - - By pypLynr (***) Date 07-19-2008 21:40
Okey- dokey... thank you .
Parent - - By PlanB (*) Date 07-21-2008 01:07
pypLynr, looks like I got the 56 shorthood back, and have the rebuilt 63 redface both still here. I left your email at the shop and coulnd not get through on the # above. Give me a call if you are still interested. Thanks Troy, planb@txwinet.com 512.698.6016
Parent - - By KSellon (****) Date 07-21-2008 16:29
send me pics--I will post them on my website
Parent - - By PlanB (*) Date 07-21-2008 18:09
I will try to get some of the shorthood. I think I have some of the 63
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Parent - - By chris2698 (****) Date 07-22-2008 02:12
planB looks really good a the new aluminum faceplate man that looks like a really good faceplate looks alot like original.
Can I ask what is the switch local to remote will it flip from remote to the fine adjust on the machine??

Chris
Parent - - By Shooter71 (**) Date 07-22-2008 03:05
Hmmm, something different about the beautiful redfaces on this post and the " all copper windings redface" on ebay!
http://cgi.ebay.com/Lincoln-SA-200-Red-Face-Welder_W0QQitemZ260265328379QQihZ016QQcategoryZ113743QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Parent - By DaveBoyer (*****) Date 07-22-2008 03:29
I guess that red plate fits on any of them.
Parent - - By PlanB (*) Date 07-22-2008 03:33 Edited 07-22-2008 03:35
Switch is for fine adustment on the machine, or with the remote out away from the machine. that is what the yellow pigtale is for. You take it with you, and dont have to walk back to the machine to change your heat. Dont know if you have used one, but you take the fine adjust/reosat with you.
Parent - - By chris2698 (****) Date 07-22-2008 04:38
never used a remote I'd like to get one though but was just currious of that switch though. I assume that switch then comes with the pigtail setup and all right??
Parent - By PlanB (*) Date 07-22-2008 04:48
Yes sir, It just switches from machine to remote.
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