What would one impeach him for. Giving the people what they want? People want someone to make it better. They refuse to look in the mirror and admit THEY are the problem. Our representatives reflect what we the votors really want. We elect then re-elect this pond scum to washington where they think they have some secret power to make it better. There is no one we have elected that is one beit smarter then you or me. After 2 terms they then become corrupt and thet is when they learn how to get things done "for the people" back home.
They sell their souls for continued power.
Conservatives put Tom DeLay in power and kept him there. He is a sleezy bug exterminator. He took his position and enriched himself and his family. Same for Nasty Polosi. She has enriched herself at the trough of public service. There are no leaders in Washington. Only single cell pond scum that is sucking the life out of the pond.
I am so disappointed in Scrub. Looking back maybe Maines was right. He sold out to the bankers and our great grandchildren will pay for this fool's folly. Sure he has kept another terrorist attack from happening on our soil. I guess if you dont count the economic meltdown that has occurred because of government and Wall Street corruption. I could take greed, hell we are all greedy. These people are purely corrupt.

Along withthe drug test they need to give these people on welfare a job, there are plenty of jobs the gov. pays people to do when these people could earn those welfare checks.

Textwelder, Ctacker and others.

I don't want to hear any more griping about welfare for poor people.

The biggest welfare scammers in history have been getting fed on the public trough for a century in this country.  Chrysler,, Harley Davidson,, AIG, Other big insurance companies, Airlines, Wall Street in general, City Bank, Chase Bank, Goldman Sachs, Illegal Aliens, Israel, 

So, until we get the swindlers and their current henchmen (Paulsen, Busch, Franks, ETC.) in jail forever, and impoverish their families and their friends forever, lets be a little kinder to those who, for whatever reason, lack the power to make it honestly and live decently in our economic system,

I do, really like the idea of making welfare or other social benefits take a drug test, like many of us who work for a living.  I also love the idea of making those who register to vote show some form of valid identification.  This past year my wife became a citizen and when we went down to register her to vote, I couldn't believe it when they actually refused her ID!!!!

well then i guess i need to be the first in line so where do i go i have never done drugs a dain my life not even played with it unless you cont beer well then yeah i'm a drugie so where do i line up there are people that need it and there are thos that abuse it i have seen it myself first hand but hwta can ya do it was there when my family needed it and now i am titled as a drugie cause i needed some help keeping my family whats left of them alive in a month or so i'll be able to go back to work and reay it all i can send you reciepts if you like not everybody milks the system you know it was a hard decision to go ask for help more pride than anything ese but hwne ya have 2 kids asking whats to eat and you have to scrounge thru the cupboards and pantry just ot keep food in thier bellys you have to swallow pride and start surviving only help i get is with food i didnt have insurance when i got hurt and workmans comp didnt pick up the claim ssi denied me of temporary disability so i had to do sumthing try this on for size 300,000.00 just in hospital stay and then the 15 or so doctors that say they helped at 1-3,000.00 a pop and the follow up visits at 45 a pop and then the pills at 150 a month and watching your wife take a dead beat job for 10 an hr just to help a lil when you know you can be out there making 10k a month standing on ur head and you have to stick your hand out to feed the kids degrading yes embarassin yes but tell me instead of asking for it you'd sit there and watch your kids starve i think not so tell me where i need to line up i'll p^^ in a cup hell i'll even give you a hair sample if thats what wants spit on a stick what ever you can dream up and i will pass with flying colors let me know when you ready today tomorrow next week next month dont matter to me just let me know hell i'll even pay for it so you cant gripe about that either enuff said

Lets say they are all forced to get a job. Or at least perform some task for their pay. It could be structured on the hourly basis. However; how would you enforce showing up for work, or if they did, actually doing anything? In the real world, no show, no work = no job. In the walfare world, what are you going to do? Fire them?

After 80 percent of the walfare recipients effectively strike, and their checks are cancelled, what then? Anybody remember Katrina where TV's and shoes were being looted? or how about the LA riots? While the primary focus was on the black community by the media, there were all races involved in those. (you could almost say it was racist news coverage)
White, black, latino, asian, all were involved in both cited incidences in one way or another. What was the common thread? All in walfare neighborhoods, most on walfare themselves.

What does long term working for a living teach a person? Responsibility, work ethic, self worth, and a host of other positive values usually.

what does long term walfare teach a person? How to scam the system for more money, over dependance on others, lack of self control, lack of self worth, 0 responsibility, and a host of other negatives.

So when the checks stop flowing because they refused to work. What do you think is going to happen?? For that matter, it doesn't even have to be stopped, it could be simply planned.

Does anyone honestly believe there is a standup politician out there that would vote for such a measure? It's called exit strategy. What do you do when the results arrive?
Arrest them? There will be grumblings of slavery. Bow over to their demands? Bingo, what they do everytime.

In my personal opinion, there should be a two year limit for walfare if your able bodied to work. There should be mandatory education so they get work during that two years, or retraining if it was the case of losing ones job. The only exception will be those unable to work for documented physical disability.
Would it cause massive riots. Absolutely. Do I care? No.
No matter what plan is implemented, somebody is going to suffer. It has gone on to the point instituting the title of this thread. A welfare state of America. If it's left as is, it will eventually bring this country down permenantly, along with everyone trying to work for a living.

The flip side of the coin is the cons in congress and the fat cats on wall street would need a visit to prison as well.

So taking both sides in light of each other? i don't honestly see either happening because this country is full of people who have lost the stomach to fight. There are some good ones still left out there, but they are getting rarer by the day.

my opinion for what it's worth.

Ladies and Gentlemen,
  I am replying to all in general, and just picked Ctackers post to jump in at.

I totally agree with the idea of people on welfare taking drug tests and documenting where their money goes. There is nothing wrong with that. We do it all the time, and we have jobs!! Pre-employment drug tests, random drug tests, expense reports ect. ect.

My parents ran a homeless shelter in CO for 15 years that also had a big hand in the welfare scene, IE food stamps, WIC ect. I have seen both kinds of people, the users and abusers, as well as the many that truly need help and are in bad spots due to NO fault of their own. In that 15 years, I have to say, and this may rub some the wrong way, but it is a fact, 60% of the people we saw come through were users and abusers of the system. My parents had to deny, or kick out MANY people for drinking and drug use. There was a mandatory background check to be able to receive assistance, and these were very reveiling and often scary to say the least.

There is a large portion of recipeints that would have no problem taking a drug test and documenting the use of their funds, like Shad, BUT there is also the portion that would have a problem with it.

Now let me also add that along with the drug test, there should be some sort of rehabilitation program for those that want to get clean. If you want the help, it will be provided, but if you don't, then kick rocks!!!

As for putting these people to work, I say YES. Now of course there are many who can not work. This is understandable. BUT if a position can be found that one can be usefull and productive in, then they should be made to at least try.

I have helped people in the past that have fallen on hard times, and some will take everything they can from you and more, never offer anything in return, not even a thank you. I have also helped people who need the help, but want to return something if they can. I will not let these people pay cash, or anything like that. I will refuse it. If they send a check, I void it. If they send cash, I donate it to a charitable cause in their name.

I know this statement is going to go over like a fart in a diving bell with some, but remember, I am basing this off of actual first hand experiance, and from what I was exposed to first hand, 60% users and abusers, and 40% legitimate.

These numbers could change with the implimentation of some requirements like the ones mentioned in this thread.

Now some will say, who is going to pay for the drug tests? Taxpayers of course would be the first ones impacted. But lets think about this for a minute.

With the implimentation of a plan like this, we would incure another cost for welfare assistance. YES

BUT, with this cost we weed out the useres and abusers, and the cost goes down.

JMHO

jrw159 :-)