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- - By BryonLewis (****) Date 12-03-2008 16:24
I just got my D1.1 Codebook.  I am studying for the CWI in February.  Is it better to study the Figures and Tables or the text?  I have read a good portion of text and they seem to point to a Table or Figure.  I am more visual and learn better that way.  I read the same parts 2 or 3 times before I go to the suggested table.  Then it makes sense.

And also from the practical side whilst working with the Code as a CWI which part is used more?  The reading gets pretty dry, especially since I haven't worked with codes before.  But the illustrations make it much more interesting.

Thanks
Parent - By js55 (*****) Date 12-03-2008 16:46
I'm not sure it can be segregated that way. My test was heavy on tables and figs for chaps 3, 4, and 5.  A little NDE stuff from 6. Chap 2 stuff was really light.
I'd say its heavy for text in chap 5 and heavy for tables and figs in chaps 3 and 4. But given the data base for questions they have to draw on I'm not sure this holds in general.
If you memorize the thing from cover to cover you'll be fine.  :)

Actually, I think its better to have a firm grasp of the layout of the thing so you can find answers fast.
Parent - By Lawrence (*****) Date 12-03-2008 16:49 Edited 12-03-2008 17:04
Bryon,

They are both important......  I like to approach things by using the index.

The index will generally indicate a relevant notation in both figures and text.  Many times the text relates to the figures and just as often the figures relate to the text or footnotes.

Knowing how to quickly determine how those text/figure/table relationships apply to the specific question is the key.

The pertinant detail on the job (or on your exam) may be found in the text, in a figure, on a table or in a footnote... It is important to get comfortable just running through all of it.

Also relating your question to a specific section (clause) is important... If the question mentions Procedure Qualification than multiple index hits can be narrowed to clause 4 as a starting point.  If the question is fabrication related than the indexed notes for clause 5 should be examined.  Remember if the index notes both text and figures... Look at each because they may have a relationship.
Parent - By Kix (****) Date 12-03-2008 16:51 Edited 12-03-2008 16:55
Start tabbing the tables and the sections so you can fly right to them during the test.  Remembering what each section has to deal with is very important to.  If the question is asking about qualification, you know to go right to section 4 and so on.  Like Lawrence said the index is a good tool as well.  FOr example, if the question talks about Fillet qualification and you go to the index, it might have a crap load of numbers to look at.  You know qualification is section 4, so you only need to look at the numbers starting with 4.  Hope that helped alittle.  Good luck!
Parent - By Mikeqc1 (****) Date 12-03-2008 17:00
Another helpfull thing ive done is put the page number for the table next to where it is referenced saves a few seconds but it helps.
MDK
Parent - By jwright650 (*****) Date 12-03-2008 17:00
One thing that Lawrence said..."footnotes"...be very aware of those little rascals, they have a way of changing your answer ;-)
Parent - By jrw159 (*****) Date 12-03-2008 17:32
Bryon,
  To my knowledge (this may have changed) if you write in or mark in your code book you will not be allowed to test with it, you will have to purchase a new one. I believe you can highlight and you can for sure tab. Again, this may have changed, like a few other things since I tested.

jrw159 :-)
Parent - - By BryonLewis (****) Date 12-03-2008 18:10
Thanks for all of the advice.  Its pretty gnarly but I don't think it will be a problem.  If you guys can pass, how had can it be?  LOL :-)
Parent - - By welderbrent (*****) Date 12-03-2008 19:10
I just tested in June and what John said was partly correct.  They told us we could write in, mark, insert page numbers to take us quickly to another reference, tab, or whatever else made it easy to find information.

BUT, DO NOT WRITE IN THE BOOK DURING THE TEST.

Main reason is they don't want you writing questions in your book and showing them to others.  Security of the system and the multitude of questions already prepared for the tests.  If they see you making any kind of mark in your book during the test, no questions, your gone, no score, start over.  Don't get too paranoid about it but try to keep your pencil away from your book so there are no questions regarding when it was marked in.  Also, use a pen and highlighter for pre-test notes and have only a pencil available at the test.  No arguments that way.

Otherwise, everyone has to pick a system that works best for them.  There have been several posts here on making up questions to practice and many have provided questions (very good ones).  Practice, read, read, & practice.  Get familiar with the book and don't forget to do at least a little study from the WIT book and other references listed.

You'll do fine.  Have a Great Day,  Brent
Parent - By ctacker (****) Date 12-03-2008 21:46
I was told the same thing, You will be escorted out of the exam area if you write in the book WHILE your taking the test. But whatever you have written in it beforehand does not matter.
I had alot of notes in my codebook, Also, I had the index copied and stapled together so I didn't have to keep flipping through the book to find something. Those were allowed as long as they were not a bunch of loose papers.
Parent - - By jrw159 (*****) Date 12-04-2008 15:12
Brent,
  You are correct. I was only partly correct. This question arose some time back and I looked through my old e-mails and found one from a gentleman at Hobart explaining it. Totaly skipped my little mind. LOL Thanks for the clarification.

jrw159
Parent - - By welderbrent (*****) Date 12-05-2008 16:28
Alright, I did it again.  Sometimes, seeing as I am a very poor and slow typist, my slow brain manages to outrun my slow fingers.  I meant to say 'partly correct according to the instructor and protors at the test I took.' Cut myself short.

Pretty sure you didn't take it wrong, just thought I would clarify.

Have a Great Day,  Brent
Parent - By jrw159 (*****) Date 12-05-2008 18:18
Yeah, I did not take it wrong or in a bad way. LOL

You have a good one too.

jrw159 :-)
Parent - - By 522029 (***) Date 12-15-2008 22:33
If that detail is the only thing that ever skips your mind you are WAY ahead of me!

Griff
Parent - By jrw159 (*****) Date 12-16-2008 00:24
Griff,
  Not by any means the only one to skip my mind. LOL This is why I save alot of e-mails, document everthing I can, and record important verbal conversations when it may come into play at a later date.

jrw159 :-)
Parent - - By whip (*) Date 12-04-2008 04:10
Byron, Buy the entire CWI Preparatory Study guides and practice exams from AWS this will give you a pretty good idea of what you will be faced with but bare in mind the questions might not be the same, however they may be the same but asked differently.So a study of the code book is wise also there is a lot of good test takeing info here on the AWS web site. Also if you are not sure of something find out now and conquer it before test time. Reading this Forum and asking for help I'm sure with you trying to achieve your CWI know one will have a problem helping you.
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Parent - - By CHGuilford (****) Date 12-06-2008 02:28
That's good advice.

What I normally suggest to folks is to find in the code the answers to the practice questions.  Use the index, then find the specific figure, clause, or footnote that provides the answer.  You will become very familiar with what's in the code book that way. 

When studying the other materials, I suggest taking the quiz for the chapter first, then read the chapter.  That makes it easier to pull the answers out of the text and it sinks in better so you will remember it.  At least that works for me.
Parent - By hvymax (**) Date 12-15-2008 19:50
  I became official on 12-1 so I probably have the freshest memory on this. The AWS certification manual for welding inspectors is invaluable in preparing for this and the questions at the end of each chapter give you a clue and the visual inspection workshop reference manual will help familirize you with the tools of the trade. DO NOT try to memorize D1 because it will mess you up on the practical. Practice finding things using the index and your personal tab system. Hopefully the class you are taking will drill you on all of the nesecary skills and help you develop your tab system. I had the 1week crash course but if you carefully pick apart every question and possible answer(within the alotted time of course)you should do fine. If you answer the ones that you know first, carefully work through the ones that arent time killers and wag the rest you should cover the margin for error(72%).I must say that this was one of the most intense things that I have ever done but with THOROUGH CAREFUL FAST INTERPRETATION you should be alright.(Of course of the four people that I went with I was the only one to pass so prepare well)Good Luck train hard fight easy
Parent - By BryonLewis (****) Date 12-16-2008 19:36
Is the practice exam the WIT-E in the catalog?  I am thinking about asking Santa to bring it for Christmas.  I hope I don't have to sit on his lap very long for it though.
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