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- - By david bean (**) Date 03-31-2009 21:13
Greetings
I am a CWI and have Qualified WPS's and individuals through different codes before such as D1.3 and D1.6 . I am attempting to qualify a procedure through D1.2 aluminum I heard a rumor that i wasn't qualified to do this ? he said i had to get my cwi in D1.2.  but this guy is kinda wacky!!!!!!!!   please help
Parent - - By BryonLewis (****) Date 03-31-2009 21:20
Get your CWI in D1.2?  WTF, the guy is nuts.  You can do it.
Parent - - By david bean (**) Date 04-01-2009 12:12
ok pal, thats what i thought  as well, it seems that im ok to proceed.

thanks for your time and info.  DJB
Parent - By CHGuilford (****) Date 04-01-2009 16:18
I would always be right if I could make up the rules as I go.

I agree - unless there is something stating otherwise in the contract (weasel words), you are good to go.
Parent - - By hogan (****) Date 03-31-2009 21:38
There is a possibility that the municipality may have additional requirements, but AWS has none.
Parent - - By welderbrent (*****) Date 04-01-2009 01:52
Hogan, Bryon

Is there even an endorsement test given for all the extra codes? D1.2, 1.3, 1.4, 1.6, etc.  I thought the only endorsements available were to API 1104, D1.5, and whatever you could test to in the first place.  Not every single code.  Not that they won't add all of them at some point in time. 

But as you said hogan, it rather depends upon the requirements of either the customer or the municipality.  And most of them haven't a clue as to what you can be certified in and how the system is supposed to work.  Just more regulatory mess up.

Have a Great Day,  Brent
Parent - By jrw159 (*****) Date 04-01-2009 12:25
Brent,
  That was my initial thought as well, but I looked into it and it appears that as of 11/29/08 one can indeed test to D1.2 2003 or 2008 for part C.

http://www.aws.org/w/a/certification/CWI/

jrw159
Parent - - By jarcher (**) Date 04-01-2009 01:45
As far as I know, the only AWS "D" sections that are given in the CWI exam are D1.1 and D1.5. So, unless things changed very recently, it would be impossible for you to add a CWI endorsement for D1.2.
Parent - By welderbrent (*****) Date 04-01-2009 01:54
And that just answered my question.  Thank you. 

Have a Great Day,  Brent
Parent - - By jrw159 (*****) Date 04-01-2009 12:30
David,
  As has been mentioned, there could possibly be something in the contract specs addressing this, or requirements of the municipality, but as far as AWS goes, you are good to go. If you test in D1.1 you are not limited to inspection of that code only.

jrw159 :-)
Parent - - By david bean (**) Date 04-02-2009 18:42
their is no wording in the job specs. Thanks for all your help!!!!
DJB
Parent - - By jarcher (**) Date 04-05-2009 19:19
Ahhh, wouldn't you know it. The current Certification notes under the CWI testing schedule shows that as of Nov 29, 2008, there is an endorsement for D1.2. This shouldn't make any difference to the answers you've received here though. Unless its in the contract documents, neither AWS or ASME specifies who may or what level of training is required to write a WPS. My company, for instance, which is an OEM for oil field solutions, requires that a welding engineer be included in the procedure development for sales purposes. What that has evolved into is I plan and write the WPS, do the observation for the PQR recording all the data, specify and send the sample off for mechanical testing, then write the whole thing up and send it to the welding engineer to accept or not as a contracted reviewer. As far as the code books are concerned a dog, three ducks, and chicken could do my part if they could do it correctly.
Parent - - By RonG (****) Date 04-06-2009 19:30
A dog and 3 Ducks maybe, I am not sure about the Chicken though. Chickens are confined to the Farm Code. And the Ducks must be of the wild kind not domestic.
Parent - - By jrw159 (*****) Date 04-06-2009 20:13
LOL, so are Daffy and Donald Duck qualified? Pluto says he will not work with any other ducks but them. Foghorn Leghorn has been informed that he is restricted to the Farm Code. He is not happy, but code is code. :-)
Parent - - By jarcher (**) Date 04-06-2009 23:56
Hey that's ok, Foghorn, lot's of gates and pole barns to fabricate.
Parent - - By jrw159 (*****) Date 04-07-2009 00:56
He is OK now. I explained that he would be working with Goofy. Some of the hens are still in a tizzy over the code restriction, but overall things are good in the barnyard. :-)
Parent - - By welderbrent (*****) Date 04-07-2009 04:02
John, are we including self portraits now?  Always knew there was something fishy about you.  This thread sure went to the birds, and the dogs.

Have a Great Day,  Brent
Parent - By jrw159 (*****) Date 04-07-2009 12:01
Brent,
   LOL, I am glad David, the OP, already got his answer before this went south for the winter.

jrw159
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