I've seen those thermacool radiator things before and they worked good. Chris, that vortexair is something I've never seen before! Looks cool......literally!!
the vortex air thing you never ever swet but you need a huge compressor to run it. I have a small one that drops the air temp by like 45 degrees but just orderd another one to pump more volume of air which may not drop the temp that much but it's enough to be ******* ice cubes I never bought the vest just went to the hardware store and bought some rubber tubeing poked a bunch of holes in it and made up my own little harness.
this thing is like wearing you're car or house A/C on your body it's that dang cold
I'll have to look or ask at TSC. That one I posted link to at Fastenal was most expensive one they listed for hazardous locations but they sell smaller ones too seen those in their stores.
Well that makes sense to dry it out so doesn't mold and mildew. Porta Cool emailed me about more dealers for them too besides just TSC & Fastenal also Grainger, NAPA, Motion Industries & Applied Industrial Technologies.
To me, TSC is handy and nation wide. If you have a problem away from home, Just go there and exchange it. They have a service policy you can buy. I think it is 3 or 4 years and it was about 150.00 or less. Just my thoughts
Yes, in a good insulated building. They are talking portable though I think. Notice the "hazardous location" label on that one. It means because of a different motor and switch it cost 3 or 4 times more. There is lots of difference in those Porta Cools than a little swamp cooler using them outdoors or on site even though the cost of them is 3 or 4 times more too.
the vortex air there are no moving parts what so ever. I just got my new one in Friday and it says it will drop the temp by 60 degrees 2500 BTU of whatever the air is coming in from the compressor so I say thats pretty dang good. Once in a blue moon you may need to clean it out with some rubbing alcohol and change two O rings and thats about it here is how it works http://www.itwvortec.com/vortex_tubes.php
That is a whole lot of compressed air. 35 SCFM is about what, or more than You get from a 10 HP shop compressor, drawing about 50 amps@230 volts. I believe You could run a 10 ton air conditioning system for about the same power use.
Yep saw that and shot my idea of using it while sandblasting or get a much larger compressor. I got to get a cooler tube they make for my breathing air pump it kinds of works on same principal I think.
yeah thats what I had bought that 3m makes it's the same thing but it doesn't deliver the volume of air like the new one I bought and it was design to pump fresh cool air into you're welding shield as you weld
ohhh you're talking about the belt you wear and it has the canisters on it pumping fresh air to you that is like 900 dollars and probally worth it. Now I can't understand why this 3m cooling thing is for your shield because there is no filtering air unless you hook up something so there is clean fresh air going through the 3m tube. I'm totally lost in what you're asking? LOL I'm tired and slow. If you're useing it for just cooling you're body as you work then buy the 2500 BTU vortec tube if you're wanting it to pump fresh air to you're welding shield to help you breathe I wouldn't use it for that
Yes, I was talking about something like this Clemco cool air tube wear on belt for blasting but it still won't work for what I was wanting and needs more cfm air flow. I just have ambient air pump and need some kind of chiller for it or just have to setup with something else and more air and a filter. These have to be kind of like the Vortex one just a different brand name.
The system that Chris's jacket works on is a fairly large flow of high pressure fairly cool air expands anf looses pressure after going through an orfice and in doing so the temperature drops. This requires that 1) the air has lost it'ts temperature gain from compression and 2) is free to expand and absorb the heat it has presumably lost before it got to the cooling unit.
A low pressure breathing blower does not provide the high pressure or the extraction of heat. While it may give some relief if You blow air into Your cloths, it WILL NOT drop the temperature like the vortex system.
Yep figured that out. I just have a ambient air pump for hood or respirator. Need more air with filter so can use a cooler tube like the Vortex or Clemco makes a cooler tube and one that heats or cools.
How much is the Clemco brand? I paid 113 for mine but order from the itwvortec.com website and it was 110 dollars and you can order the other one that will blow cold or hot as well. Down here in Louisiana it is so freaking hot I don't need the one that blows heat. I see that this thing is 20cfm I'd go with the 35scfm if you have the compressor that can handle it. I used it yesterday for the first time my new one and it nearly blew my cloths off compared to the other one and I never ever swet a bit yesterday. I see on there website it is 140 and I wouldn't pay that now that I bought this one.
Don't know didn't price it just saw it in old Marco USA catalog I had as another option. I'll probably go with Bullard because it's the brand blasting helmet I have and it and the Clemco are built and rated for breathing air. Plus can get Bullard filters easier local. I saw it only said for vests for the Vortec and nothing about breathing air.
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