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- - By J Hall (***) Date 09-26-2009 01:46
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/24/elementary-school-students-reportedly-taught-songs-praising-president-obama/
Parent - - By Mikeqc1 (****) Date 09-26-2009 19:54
Its the begining, you know that O will choose the young when he builds his gaurd....i mean Civilian police force.
Parent - - By Mikeqc1 (****) Date 09-26-2009 19:54
I see the path any1 else?
Parent - - By RonG (****) Date 09-27-2009 03:19
No. What path do you see????
Parent - - By Mikeqc1 (****) Date 09-27-2009 14:09
I see the path of the " fundamental change of the united states"
When our leaders are cheered by the same people who Kill, murder, and Oppress their people….something is wrong!
When peaceful protest is equated to racism, there is a problem.
When our leader is condemning free speech there is a problem.
When our leader is condemning the police because they do their job something’s wrong!(with out knowing the facts)
When the FEDs are going after talk radio there is a problem.
When the FEDs are asking us to spy on each other over policies, there is a problem.
When Big money is running the gov there is a problem.
This should be a no brainier for most people!
How many Communists are in the White house?
How many of our leaders hate everything about our country?
How many farmers are going broke because of a little fish?
How many jobs will be lost due to over taxation.
How many schools are teaching liberal agendas ( global warming, evolution, songs to Big O, homosexuality, ect.) there is a problem.
When trillions of dollars are missing , there is a problem.
When there is a criminal organization that the Admin wants to help make federal agendas there is a problem.
This is no longer a minor liberal irritation, its almost a full blown fascist political party!
So the plan ..
Control Money (bail outs and taxes)
Control manufacturing (Auto bail outs )
Control Healthcare ( healthcare bill)
Control food ( Environmental laws)
Oh and Reeducate the children.
think real hard about the Chess game of life that’s going on under our noses.
MDK
Parent - - By ssbn727 (*****) Date 09-27-2009 16:09
Mike! Mike!

Give it a rest already!!! The country is not going to become a facist state any more than it's going to become a communist state already!!!

Don't you remember that in 2012 this administration can be FIRED if it is indeed the will of the people???
So do us all a favor, and give yourself some time to gather all of your reserves for 2010 because, then you can drive yourself crazy brainstorming how to get rid of this administration!!!

I can tell you right now, you really do not have anything to worry about because like President Carter, President Obama is going to be nothing more than a one term President unless that is - if some nut job backed by forces with hidden agenda's ends it prematurely like they did with President Kennedy!!! Health care reform, Afganistan coupled with Obama trying to reform Social Security will be his own demise so, please, please!!! For your own health, don't drive yourself nuts over this male cow excrement that's presently going on!!! Remember that it's only TEMPORARY!!! :) :) :)

Besides, you're gonna vote for me in 2012 right??? If you do, I'll make you a cabinet member unless that is,
you would rather be a Czar??? ;) :) :)

Respectfully,
Henry
Parent - - By Mikeqc1 (****) Date 09-27-2009 19:11
Its all so inocent....right?

http://news.aol.com/article/more-school-obama-would-curtail-summer/689157?icid=main|classic|dl1|link3|http%3A%2F%2Fnews.aol.com%2Farticle%2Fmore-school-obama-would-curtail-summer%2F689157
Parent - By ssbn727 (*****) Date 09-27-2009 19:37
Innocence left us a long time ago!!! ;) ;) :)

Respectfully,
Henry
Parent - - By RonG (****) Date 09-27-2009 21:08
“Its all so inocent....right?”
WOW Mike!  I really can not fathom what you mean by that. Innocence??   In government??  Where?? When?? And who??  Innocence and Government do not mix. Point of fact—“Nice guys finish last”. “A good loser is just that, a loser”
Maybe we should all commit mass suicide.

On second thought--- - so what’s new?---- Didn't you just describe a Democracy at work?

You should read the story about Chicken Little, better yet read some history books. Real history books not the kind they approve for you’re kids in schools.

You are ranting about some one who just took control of one hell of a %$#@ed  up mess that he had no part of in creating. He is the ELECTED leader like it or not for 4 years and all this distraction is going to hurt us (the working people) a hell of a lot more than it will him. And no I did not vote for him but all this petty MAD male bovine excreatement is running my country in to the ground.

Oh yea--- When if ever did big money people not ever have control of Government????????

foot note to Henry. A cow is female bovine. :-)
Parent - By Mikeqc1 (****) Date 09-27-2009 22:52
ok you win
Parent - - By ssbn727 (*****) Date 09-27-2009 23:44
Hi Ron!
I stand corrected!!! ;) ;) ;) BTW, I still love that "quarter horse" of yours!!! :) :) :)
Heck Ron! What do I know??? I'm just one of those boys raised in the city who moved out the first chance he could get to!!! :) :) :)

Respectfully,
Henry
Parent - By RonG (****) Date 09-28-2009 14:26
:-) No biggy Henry, I was delivering the punch line on a joke we use to pull whem I was a kid "There's no such thing as a Bull Cow".

To bad about the Steeler's, I have always been partial to the Pokes but Terry Bradshaw has always been a hero to me.
Parent - By hogan (****) Date 09-27-2009 21:22
still at it I see
Parent - By BryonLewis (****) Date 10-07-2009 11:44
I've thought a longer school year would be great.  Having 3 kids of my own they should go to school all year.  Maybe a couple weeks off in August and then back at it.  This is a typical school year:

Week 1:  Get to know your class mates, pass out books.  No work!
Weeks 2-4:  Review stuff from end of last year.  After 3 months of doing nothing, the kids forgot everything.
A couple months of new stuff.  Thanksgiving break 4 days off.  A couple teacher in-service days.  Fall parties, formerly known as Halloweek (due to "religious" conotations, its now a Fall party).
Winter break 2-3 weeks off.  Formerly known as Christmas and New Years.  2 weeks reviewing what was taught before Winter break.  President's day off, MLK day off a couple more teacher in-services days off.  Spring Break 1 week off.  Last month of school, not much going on there either.
So basically out of the 9 month school year they might get 6 months of new material.  Not to mention, when they get out in the REAL world and start their job and see that they only get 1 week of vacation instead of 3 months, I'm sure its quite a shock to their system.

Sure let them go year around!!!  IMO
Parent - - By makeithot (***) Date 10-06-2009 00:29
Henry,
I am hoping that someone can explain to me , not that it effects me in any way as I am not an American. But how exactly does health reform effect the freedoms of the american people? It would seem to me that it would be a good thing for everyone to recieve good health care and create a btter life style for everyone the working man especially. I know for the most part you all figure us canadians to be a bunch of socialists or for that matter comunists but in fact nothing can be further from the truth, because we have government run health care. Granted our system also needs work but at least we cannot be refused treatment as mediocur as it can be at times but we also have the obtion of private health care if we want it as well. Anyway just trying to get a feel for what everyone seems to be so pissed off about from the outside looking in it does appear that O is trying to do something good???????????
Parent - - By Mikeqc1 (****) Date 10-06-2009 01:49
it is an american tradition to say I want to make my own decisions....plain and simple
Parent - By makeithot (***) Date 10-07-2009 03:56
I'm all for that as long as their good ones.
Parent - - By DaveBoyer (*****) Date 10-06-2009 02:35 Edited 10-06-2009 02:42
Here in America You can not be refused care at ANY hospital, regardless of weather You can pay or not. They will just hound You for the rest of forever to try and get You to pay even a few dollars a month towards the bill. If You are paying even a small portion of what You owe on a regular basis, You can not be prosecuted for lack of payment.

I have health insurance [that I pay for Myself], but there are always errors in the billing and payment for services, it is an ongoing PITA to try and get things sorted out.

The concern is that when the proposed Govt. system runs short of funds as Govt. programs tend to do, that care will become less available and of lesser quality than it is now.

The issue is weather or not You trust the Govt. to look after Your best interests.

I don't have that much trust in the US Govt., either party.

I DO BELIEVE that We need health care reform, but I don't think that the 1,100 page bill, HR 3200 that was proposed by the Democrats is the solution.
Parent - By makeithot (***) Date 10-07-2009 03:52
Dave,
I hear ya at times it's hard to belief that the government has any buddies best intrest in mind. Good t' hear from you.
Parent - - By swsweld (****) Date 10-07-2009 03:37 Edited 10-07-2009 03:48
First of all, I don't know of any American that thinks of Canada as communist.
I don't know anybody personally that dislikes Canada (leaving hockey out of the discussion).
Most Americans got nuthin but love for our northern neighbors.
So you got socialized health care, we have socialist programs too.

A few things to consider on our current health care.. um health insurance reform. They renamed it to demonize insurance companies.
They tried to pass it before the summer break. 1100 pages that no congressperson had read. A bill that would affect us all and pass it before we have a chance to read it and debate it.
47 million (if you believe the numbers) more patients and zero more doctors, nurses, hospitals, clinics, etc. and we are told that we will have better quality health care and more affordable too. That's not possible.
They say that abortion and illegal immigrants will not be covered in the bill(there are several bills that have different stuff in it) but it keeps showing up. Many Americans don't support their taxes being spent on abortion and illegals.
In at least one bill, if you do not buy the gov. plan you will be fined, I have heard jailed also but I can't confirm that. But the fine is legit. Um, if you can't afford the gov. plan how can you afford the fine?
Small businesses will be fined 8% to 15% if they do not buy health insurance for the employees. Many companies will be forced out of business if this passes. Then the employees without company provided health insurance will be unemployed and still without insurance.
I'm not sure how efficient your health care works in Canada but we have great concerns with our governments ability to run the system. A visit to the DMV (Dept. of Motor Vehicles) will confirm the concern.
It will cost MUCH more than they say and they know it and so do we. Medicare and Medicaid either are or will be bankrupt soon.
Then comes the good ole' "gov. wants to have control" argument. Many conservatives, like myself, think that the gov. should decrease not increase.
Lots of Americans think this plan is unconstitutional.
This year, so far, they have nationalized banks, car industry, educational loans, currently working on health care and energy.

When they run out of money the health care WILL be rationed.
We can't pay for it without raising taxes, a promise that the president will have to break if it does pass.
If they pass the public option, it will eventually become the single payer plan and our options will gone, You will have the gov. plan like it or not. Yes we could possibly buy a private plan as you mentioned but only those that could afford it.
I think everybody agrees that changes need to be made as insurance is very expensive, pre-existing conditions, denial of benefits, etc but the question is how to fix it not completely overhaul it.

Man, I could go on and on but you are probably already asleep :)

Oh and by the by: Thomas Jefferson isn't for it either.
Parent - By makeithot (***) Date 10-07-2009 03:47
swsweld,
We also have great concern about our government being able to run the the system, LOL
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