Thanks for clearing that up!

Keith

WACCOBIRD is correct..... But the CWE is only a feather to put in your hat, it's been my personal experience that it has VERY little meaning, I'll keep it current just in case one of these days it has a meaning, but I'll be retiring in 2 years. I taught for 17 years, adjunct, evening classes at Indiana Vocational Technical College and when the position came up for full time I was denied in favor of a very much younger person with a very limited welding background. I took all the classes at Indiana - Purdue extension for my NOCTI qualification to qualify for ADULT EDUCATION and had over a dozen welder quals including 2  6GR per ASME Sec.9, strong math, physics, prints, metallurgy and heat treat, and a 4 year apprinticeship, and 4 years involvement with Indiana BUSET - OSHA, all that prep wasn't good enough. Four years ago I started answering openings for welding instructors in 4 states, all said that without a teaching degree they would have to denie my application, something about BUSH'S "No child left behind" regulations and guide lines, I had to have a teaching degree from a credited college. At a college in south east Georgia had a great offer, the evaluation panal consisted of the librarian, an Engish teacher, dean of instruction and a psychology instructor, they said right up front they did not know anything about a CWE or NOCTI qualification but I didn't have that 4 year teaching degree. The 6 magazines articles I wrote and recieved writter of the year at the AWS show in Atlanta, didn't carry any weight. It surely sounds like I'm just a bitter old man, and your right, I paid my dues and spent thousands of hours learning and 30 years doing and these young tradesman today need a kick from experience, a helping and understanding attitude, they have no idea what is waiting for them out there.