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- - By swnorris (****) Date 11-03-2009 19:57 Edited 11-03-2009 19:59
I think this is a very good summary of the problems with the Swine Flu vaccine and the origins of the virus itself.  I wanted to share it with the forum...

By: Dr. Russell Blaylock

An outbreak of swine flu occurred in Mexico this spring that eventually affected 4,910 Mexican citizens and resulted in 85 deaths. By the time it spread to the United States, the virus caused only mild cases of flu-like illness.

Thanks to air travel and the failure of public health officials to control travel from Mexico, the virus spread worldwide. Despite predictions of massive numbers of deaths and the arrival of doomsday, the virus has remained a relatively mild disease, something we know happens each year with flu epidemics.

Worldwide, there have only been 311 deaths out of 70,893 cases of swine flu. In the United States, 27,717 cases have resulted in 127 deaths. Every death is a tragedy, but such a low death rate should not be the basis of a draconian government policy.

It is helpful to recall that the Centers for Disease Control with the collusion of the media, constantly tell us that 36,000 people die from the flu each year, a figure that has been shown to be a lie. In this case, we are talking about 300 plus deaths for the entire world.

This virus continues to be an enigma for virologists. In the April 30, 2009 issue of Nature, a virologist was quoted as saying,"Where the hell it got all these genes from we don't know." Extensive analysis of the virus found that it contained the original 1918 H1N1 flu virus, the avian flu virus (bird flu), and two new H3N2 virus genes from Eurasia. Debate continues over the possibility that swine flu is a genetically engineered virus.

Naturally, vaccine manufacturers have been in a competitive battle to produce the first vaccine. The main contenders have been Baxter
Pharmaceuticals and Novartis Pharmaceuticals, the latter of which recently acquired the scandal-ridden Chiron vaccine company. Both
of these companies have had agreements with the World Health Organization to produce a pandemic vaccine.

The Baxter vaccine, called Celvapan, has had fast track approval. It uses a new vero cell technology, which utilizes cultured cells from the African green monkey. This same animal tissue transmits a number of vaccine-contaminating viruses, including the HIV virus.

The Baxter company has been associated with two deadly scandals. The first event occurred in 2006 when hemophiliac components were
contaminated with HIV virus and injected in tens of thousands of people, including thousands of children. Baxter continued to release the HIV contaminated vaccine even after the contamination was known.

The second event occurred recently when it was discovered that Baxter had released a seasonal flu vaccine containing the bird flu virus, which would have produced a real world pandemic, to 18 countries. Fortunately, astute lab workers in the Czech Republic discovered the deadly combination and blew the whistle before a worldwide disaster was unleashed.

Despite these two deadly events, WHO maintains an agreement with Baxter Pharmaceuticals to produce the world's pandemic vaccine.

Novartis, the second contender, also has an agreement with WHO for a pandemic vaccine. Novartis appears to have won the contract,
since their vaccine is near completion. What is terrifying is that these pandemic vaccines contain ingredients, called immune adjuvants that a number of studies have shown cause devastating autoimmune disorders, including rheumatoid arthritis, multiple sclerosis and lupus.

Animal studies using this adjuvant have found them to be deadly. A study using 14 guinea pigs found that when they were injected with
the special adjuvant, only one animal survived. A repeat of the study found the same deadly outcome.

So, what is this deadly ingredient? It is called squalene, a type of oil. The Chiron company, maker of the deadly anthrax vaccine, makes an adjuvant called MF-59 which contains an ingredient of serious concern--squalene. A number of studies have shown that squalene can trigger all of the above-mentioned autoimmune diseases when injected.

The MF-59 adjuvant has been used in several vaccines. These vaccines, including tetanus and diphtheria, are the same vaccines frequently associated with adverse reactions.

I reviewed a number of studies on this adjuvant and found something quite interesting. Several studies done on human test subjects found MF-59 to be a very safe immune adjuvant. But when I checked to see who did these studies, I found--to no surprise--that they were done by the Novartis Pharmaceutical Company and Chiron Pharmaceutical Company, which have merged. They were all published in "prestigious" medical journals. Also, to no surprise, a great number of studies done by independent laboratories and research institutions all found a strong link between MF-59 and autoimmune diseases.

Squalene in vaccines has been strongly linked to the Gulf War Syndrome. On August 1991, Anthony Principi, Secretary of Veterans Affairs admitted that soldiers vaccinated with the anthrax vaccine from 1990 to 1991 had an increased risk of 200 percent in developing the deadly disease amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS), also called Lou Gehrig's disease. The soldiers also suffered from a number of debilitating and life-shortening diseases, such as polyarteritis nodosa, multiple sclerosis (MS), lupus, transverse myelitis (a neurological disorder caused by inflammation of the spinal cord), endocarditis (inflammation of the heart's inner lining), optic neuritis with blindness and glomerulonephritis (a type of kidney disease).

Because squalene, the main ingredient in MF-59, can induce hyperimmune responses and induce autoimmunity, a real danger exists for prolonged activation of the brain's immune cells, the microglia. This type of prolonged activation has been strongly associated with such diseases as multiple sclerosis, Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease, ALS and possibly vaccine-related encephalitis. It has been shown that activation of the systemic immune system, as occurs with vaccination, rapidly activates the brain's microglia at the same time, and this brain inflammation can persist for long periods.

What most people do not know, even the doctors who recommend the vaccines, is that most studies by pharmaceutical companies observe
the patients for only one to two weeks following vaccination--these types of reactions may take months or even years to manifest.

It is obvious that the vaccine manufacturers stand to make billions of dollars in profits from this WHO/government-promoted pandemic.
Novartis, the maker of the new pandemic vaccine, recently announced that they would not give free vaccines to impoverished nations--everybody pays.

One must keep in mind that once the vaccine is injected, there is little you can do to protect yourself--at least by conventional medicine. It will mean a lifetime of crippling illness and early death.

There are much safer ways to protect oneself from this flu virus such as higher doses of vitamin D3, selective immune enhancement using supplements, and a good diet.
Parent - By waccobird (****) Date 11-03-2009 23:10
Thanks Scott
Parent - By ssbn727 (*****) Date 11-03-2009 23:13
I agree Scott... But, and this is a big one for me... I cannot do the alternative because if I did, I'd probably start to reject my transplanted organ in very short order because I must suppress my immune system intentionally with the drugs I currently take... And which leaves me in a "Catch 22" predicament that is frustrating at times. ;)

I commend you for posting this as I know it will help everyone in here who has a relatively normal immune system, as a sfe alternative to some of the questionable offerings that these pharmaceutical companies have available. I read something similar in a different forum, and I was told that there is a version without that ingredient strictly for patients like myself which makes me feel just a little bit better about taking it whenever the heck it gets here!!! :( :( :( So if you can get it, pick the vaccine without the crap in it!!! :) :) :)

Respectfully,
Henry
Parent - - By darren (***) Date 11-03-2009 23:32
disease is the new addition to,the russians,the terrorists, global warming........
more fear mongering, problem/reaction/solution
have you seen this,
http://www.codexalimentarius.net/web/index_en.jsp
i am sure you have, it is scary, three billion people are estimated to die by its implementation.
the goal is population reduction and control over those that are left.
unfortuneatly good info like you proported often falls on deaf ears.
thats why i like this off the topic place at least there is discussion on these topics.
Parent - By Mikeqc1 (****) Date 11-04-2009 00:41 Edited 11-04-2009 00:43
its now been reported for children to recieve 2 shots.....like i can even get one for my kids

I dont think this is population control ...yet id think they would wait and get the peoples trust then wham.......maybe
Parent - - By low_hydrogen (**) Date 11-04-2009 16:40
I caught the h1n1,  been down 2 days now it has been the mildest flu I've ever had.   I personally think it's fear mongering and a finacial gain for Roche laboratories Inc.  If your not one of the ones who got a vaccine then you are going to get to buy  tamiflu 10 capsules $115.00 for the first round plus the flu test $35 dollars office visit $100 dollars. Mulitiplie that by the number of people that will catch the flu this year???    I of course didn't get the vaccine but would assume like cancer there is no profit in a cure or prevention,  but millions to be made with treatments!
Parent - - By Mikeqc1 (****) Date 11-04-2009 21:15
What makes me mad is Doctors are now going against things they at  one time strongly recommended.
Is this because of a new Medical regime, or school of thought.
Should I get the vaccine, Should I not get it What do you think..............
It don’t matter what you think!  (the Roc)
There is no vaccine out there to take.....never mind two shots for my kids.(exposing them to mercury and who knows what else could be in that Petri dish)
Could the shortage be our Gov protecting us and using the world as….test subjects?
Or perhaps it’s the other way around they know it works and we are all gona get slammed with a mutant?
My guess is the drug companies are profiteering.
Parent - - By BryonLewis (****) Date 11-04-2009 23:30
What's wrong with drug companies making a profit.  That's what capitalism is all about isn't it.  Hell, everybody should get TWO doses of the vaccine regardless of the cost.  That way the capitalists can make their money and satisfy their stockholders.  By not getting the shot.....well, thats just unamerican.

If the Governement would seize control of the drug companies then everyone could get the medication at a reasonable cost.  Damn capitalists!!!  :-)
Parent - By Mikeqc1 (****) Date 11-04-2009 23:57
blah blah
talking points of your pointless argument
Parent - By Mikeqc1 (****) Date 11-05-2009 01:31
get ready to hear this more in the comming years......

Elisabeth Kubler-Ross famously described the five stages of grief. Many supporters of Barack Obama, like myself, are going through a similar process to justify voting for a Republican in yesterday's election.

The last thing this liberal member of the media elite -- as perceived by many of our readers -- ever expected to do was vote for a Republican like Chris Christie for governor and reject incumbent Jon Corzine (pictured). But in my home state of New Jersey, the Democrats are more often part of the problem rather than the solution. My disgust with the party of my registration is a long time coming.
Parent - By DaveBoyer (*****) Date 11-05-2009 03:40
The following is a list of new drugs developed by drug companies controlled by communist governments:
Parent - - By johnnyh (***) Date 11-05-2009 02:34
Get well soon.  Don't take it for granted.
Parent - By low_hydrogen (**) Date 11-05-2009 03:01
Thanks man,  I don't take my health for granted.  I am 32 and have been suffering with arteril fibulation of the heart (a-fib) since I was 25.  I have fought doctors who didn't believe me, insurance companies who won't cover anything and pay out of pocket for my prescriptions.  It is absured what drug companies charge for medicines that only treat symptoms of an affliction. Not many cures for sale?  Just from my humble observations.......

P.S.  didn't think I had the flu,  felt like severe sinus infection. Headache, head congestion, severe chest congestion, hot and cold flashes..  not the usual stomach problems etc.
So if you think you have a bad case of sinus infection you better go get checked out!   Chest congestion seems to be the worst part of it,  people with asthma etc probabley gonna have a rough time with it.
Parent - - By DaveBoyer (*****) Date 11-05-2009 03:37
Tamiflu claims You will feel better 1.3 days sooner if You take thier medicine than if You dont. How much $ is that 1.3 days worth to You?

I had the flu a few weeks ago, not confirmed by a test. I got it a few days following the regular flu shot.

My Dr. knows I am cheap and don't have a perscription plan. He never prescribed Tamiflu for me.

I am supposed to get the swine flue vaccine when it is available, I think My insurance does cover that.

Hope You are better soon.
Parent - By low_hydrogen (**) Date 11-05-2009 04:00
its worth about $650 wait e=mc2 plus 2 minus......$845.00 if it gets me back to a paying job 1.3 days sooner.....of course you never seem to get sick when your not busy huh? :)
lol thanks feel much better today just got that smokers cough,  sound like an old lady hacking a lung up!
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