I see neither a fillet weld, bevel, nor a weld size. All I see is a weld that is 3/8 inch in length.
Maybe I just stupid, but when the contract calls out a welding standard that references AWS 2.4, then that is the document I use. If the symbol is not there or I cannot read what is required, I call the designer and ask for him to provide the correct information. If he cannot provide the right information I draw the conclusion that he/she is not much of a designer and question the design itself.
Kalvin Kline welding symbols that do not comply with AWS A2.4 have no place in industry. If the designer cannot or will not take the time to look up the proper welding symbol it is time for him/her to seek a job where professionalism is not a prerequisite. With the winter season upon us there are sidewalks to be shoveled and there will be Christmas trees to be chipped (shortly that is). One of those jobs is better suited for the design professional that cannot do the job he/she was hired to do.
One of my clients and I back charged a design company $180K for improper welding symbols. Many of the examples used in my courses are taken from that one drawing package. When a welder encounters a welding symbol that is questionable, I expect him to stop and seek help from his immediate supervisor. If the supervisor cannot read the symbol, he is expected to go to engineering and up the food chain until the question is answered based on the applicable document, i.e., AWS A2.4. When production stops because of incomplete, wrong, or conflicting information, I expect compensation for the lost production. We have contracts and standards for a reason. I can tell you with some level of confidence the designer in this case purchased a current copy of AWS A2.4 and has now learned the welding symbols and their proper application. He now knows that if a standard welding symbol is not appropriate, a sketch with the necessary dimensions will do the trick.
We expect welders to know how to weld, we expect inspectors to know how to inspect, and son of a gun, and it is about time we expected designers and engineers to do their job in a professional manner. If they are designing welds they darn well should know the proper welding symbol to use based on the current requirements, not what was in vogue thirty years ago.
Call me "Hard Core", it is OK.
Best regards - Al
IMHO, I "think" they want a partial-pen with a 3/8" fillet cap...but the symbol does not tell the welder that. Missing all of the information about the weld prep, if they wanted it beveled. The symbol does not tell the welder how deep to bevel the 24" piece, nor does it give him the angle of the bevel, or weld size to go in the groove. Symbols /sketches like this leave the welder assuming too much on his own.
FUBAR! ;) The person who drew the FUBAR is an obviously avid golfer ! ;) Maybe he tries to emulate Tiger? :) :) :)
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