I went though their weldeng program 2-3 years ago. Its was great then but its not good now. They have a new instuctor. Students are making hand made pipe joints with no root pentration on the example table, not to mention a stick of 6" extra thick wall carbon steel laying on the ground. Its only going to break someones leg. What busness does that have in a school? Migged handmade pipe joints with the saddle going the wrong way.The program is a joke. Dont waste your money or time...