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- - By Brian F. (*) Date 06-27-2002 12:46
Hello,

I am a Mechanical Engineering co-op student. I am currently working on a project that requires the construction of a chart containing the mechanical properties, chemistry, and typical deposition rates for the weld wire we use. I have contacted the manufacturers of the wire we use to get charts of deposition rates. However, the data given was obtained by welding done with 75% Ar/ 25% C, and we are using 90/10. The wire in question is E70C-6M H4 (metal core) per AWS A5.18. What effect would the use of 90/10 have on the deposition rates when compared with those obtained using 75/25? Any help would be appreciated.

Brian

Parent - - By pipewelder_1999 (****) Date 06-27-2002 16:32
It has been my experience that increasing the argon percentage decreases the required transition current for GMAW spray (And sometimes increases undercut). For metal cored wire I don't know how that correlates.

If the spatter loss is the same and the operating factor the same, all else should be the same.

Run a test and let us know :)

G Austin
Parent - By Brian F. (*) Date 06-27-2002 16:53
Thanks!
Parent - - By GRoberts (***) Date 06-27-2002 17:33
Another thing to consider, is that the higher Argon percent used, the more of the deoxidising agents that make it into the weld. Most of the info I have available is for 100% CO2 Vs. 75% Ar, 25% COs, but basically, the more argon, the higher strength of the weld metal, because it will contain more Mn and Si. A Mfg data sheet I happen to have in front of me has the following data

100% CO2 = 1.15 Mn, 0.48 Si, 86 Ksi tensile, 76 Ksi yield, 26% elong.
75/25 = 1.36 Mn, .62 Si, 94 Ksi tensile, 83 Ksi yield, 25% elong.

This is fairly typical of what you would expect.
Parent - By Cain (*) Date 06-27-2002 18:10
Will more Ar (Ar90%, CO25% vs Ar75%, CO25%) affect the dep. rate, lbs/ hr?
Parent - By TimGary (****) Date 06-27-2002 18:54
I have a chart from Tri-Mark that defines the deposition rate for their metalloy (metal cored) electrodes for both 90/10 and 75/25 depending on the wire diameter and amperage used.
I can fax a copy to you if you'll send me your number.

Tim
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