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- - By 63 Max (***) Date 06-14-2010 00:01
OK, I want to know how do you think this is working for you and our Country. Honestly I just want to know how you would grade him. I mean he has added 12 Trillion to our debt, he dropped the ball in Nashville, he dropped the ball in the gulf. I could go on but lets here from you. Everything that is happening now you cant blame on Bush.
Parent - By HillbillyWelder (**) Date 06-14-2010 01:20
Hey, where is Byron.......I figured this post would flush him out for sure
Parent - - By RonG (****) Date 06-14-2010 05:46 Edited 06-14-2010 05:53
REALLY!!!! Grow up fella. That is about the &*^%$est think I've heard lately. I did not vote for Obama but I sure as hell will support him to try to get our country back on track. Try looking beyond the end of your nose.

He is not the one who caused so much of our industry to go out of the country but he did manage to prevent a very large portion of from being picked apart by other nations.

Bush did not cause the economic down fall either, no president caused that, our own greed did that. We and our Congress.

You really should read more and say less.
Parent - - By 63 Max (***) Date 06-14-2010 19:31
Where do you suggest I read more at maybe MSNBC, CNN sites or MOVEON do you think those are good sites to get info from. I really just wanted to know how is it working out for you. I mean right now I'm working so that's a plus better then last year. Let me know how you are doing.
Parent - - By Mikeqc1 (****) Date 06-14-2010 22:10
i support a president Who supports me.......not laugh at a gathering of the people by the people and for the AMERICAN people.
Parent - - By JLWelding (***) Date 06-14-2010 22:28
If the president is a joke, I'll laugh     Has nothing to do with weather I support him or not. Besides I think it is a good question.
Parent - - By 63 Max (***) Date 06-14-2010 22:51
It just seems like if I question the Great Obama people get very defensive. They have to call you names and try & put you down. I like to ask people that voted for him, why they voted for him and all I ever get back is how bad and what Bush did to this country instead of why they voted for him. :)
Parent - - By Mikeqc1 (****) Date 06-14-2010 22:54
No one questions the Big O....no one.
Big O  is an enemy of the constitution period.
Parent - - By JLWelding (***) Date 06-15-2010 02:57
You should have watched him on the news today talking about the oil in the gulf. He had the biggest looking question on his face, what do I do next. The man has no clue how to run anything.
Parent - - By 63 Max (***) Date 06-15-2010 03:30
Yep, seen him. Also seen where he compared the gulf with 9/11.  I just about fell out of my chair when I heard him say that, I'm sorry but he's an idiot period.
Parent - - By RonG (****) Date 06-15-2010 05:05
Oh poppy cock. You must be one of those people who would complain if they hung you with a new rope. Your rant is very narrow minded, shezz I bet you're even a Republican.

You sound like some one who thinks the president is supposed to be a super hero and make all the mistakes this country has made in the past 20 years just evaporate.

I would suppose you have it all figured out "Don't cha?" I bet you even have all the right answers to all the problems and if we don't believe that we should just ask you, uh!

Just like you ---- having all the right answers does not mean you can do any thing you please any time you please. Are you self employed or are you a wage earner? Wage earner is my guess because having you're own buisness has many of the same problems and they follow you day & nite where ever you go 

Wake up and look around. Holding that office does not make you a Super man and it sure as hell dose not pay enough to justify the problems that comes with it.

As far as some of the folks along the Gulf Coast are concern it may well be like 9/11 not in to lives but lively hoods and quality of life.

You really should'nt call him an idiot, he is our president he's probably a lot smarter than you give hime credit for.
Parent - By ctacker (****) Date 06-15-2010 05:40
"You must be one of those people who would complain if they hung you with a new rope"
I sure would, I would want a rope that has been broke in :) :) :)
Parent - - By Lawrence (*****) Date 06-15-2010 06:53
The only thing that has changed since President Obama was elected is the health care system... And that has only changed a little bit... More to come soon.

Finance.... Volker is his top advisor... A Reagan Appointment to the Fed.

Military...  Sec Def. is a Bush appointment as are the top battlefield commanders... No change.

Wall street?  Same.. Both President Bush and President Obama are creatures of Wall Street.

Economy... All the bailouts and Stimulus stuff was on line before President Obama took office.. He simply followed Bush/Wall St.

No Child Left Behind?   Bush and Ted Kennedy pretty much Cowrote it... Good idea that was poorly executed... President Obama has made little improvement here.  Although we may see an emphasis on technical training comming soon, but don't look for it to get all the way to the high schools.

Disaster relief... ?     Disasters continue to come on a regular basis.  Government stumbles along as usual... and people continue to grouse about not getting what they think they are entitled to.

Immigration?   This problem will only be solved when business is punished for hiring illegals, American citizens are kicked off the dole and compelled to do the work the immagrants are doing..  If the jobs are filled by Americans there will be little impetus for illegals to enter.... No army on the border will stop illegals from crossing if there is business willing to break the law by putting them to work....  This silly notion that illegals do only work that American citizens don't want to do must be put to bed for good.   I've worked in the fields and washed dishes for minumum wage when I needed to... Others can too.

All this blather about President Obama adding to the deficit?    Look to your local representative in washington... THEY are supposed to prepare the budget...   Fire them...  There is NO U.S. BUDGET for 2010 ..............  NONE      Fire your representative and elect one that will start by cutting programs at home in their own back yard...  Pork must end.... and so must my rant.
Parent - - By SMTatham (**) Date 06-15-2010 10:31
To add to this Barry love fest.....read the book "Culture of Corruption". I did NOT vote for him; and didn't have a great alternative to vote for either.  It's politics as usual...............with a twist!!  Barry and his crew are BIGTIME socialists.  He is making HAY in the Gulf.......this crisis will not be wasted; it will be his leverage to try to nationalize the oil companies and push through the carbon tax scheme.
Parent - - By RonG (****) Date 06-15-2010 18:41
Wow, you sure have some high expectations for a man who is so unloved. Give some of us a little credit for good sense.... Nationalize the oil companies??? From my perpective the oil companies pretty much own and control this country. The only bigger concern might be the US Cancer society.

You throw out Socialist like a chip in a poker game??? Because of the health care bill??? You give him to much credit. Me thinks he will be a flash in the pan but will leave some marks (scars if you prefer) but what presedent has'ent done that much.

Personally I think every one (the general public) is so busy crying in there beer over things that do not effect them they are letting good opportunitys slip by. All the Republicans can do is jump up and down and make noises when they should be keeping their mouths shut, if they want to change things. Stop running around screaming the sky is falling and get their act's together.

One thing for sure, if every one keeps going in different directions we will tear it to pieces our selfs... sheezz I bet thats what that Russian dude (cant spell his name) meant... "High road to hell"
Parent - By SMTatham (**) Date 06-15-2010 18:58
Ron, I have no clue about you except what I am reading on this page. 

I did NOT say "socialist" in  connection with healthcare; YOU did.  Barry compiled a pure ultra liberal voting record in the short time he was a senator; SOCIALIST to the core.  He and his closest compadres do not believe in free enterprise, private property and individual liberty.

As to who owns/controls/manipulates this nation you better look a little higher than the oil companies.  The IMF and World Bank for starters.
Parent - - By J Hall (***) Date 06-15-2010 18:48
After you have read "Culture of Corruption", read  "The Shadow Party"  by David Horowitz and Richard Poe.

There is defineitely and agenda, and anyone who says they are looking out for us had better get their head out of the sand.
Parent - - By RonG (****) Date 06-15-2010 19:32
My point exactly! These things have been going on since I was child (and thats a long time ago) and befor that. Shucks we even had a TV program (I led 3 lives) that was all about Communisem in the US. If that wasn't indoctronation I do not what is. This country is not the same as the one I grew up in nor is the core of it's citizenship.

I chide my crew at times with "Sometimes you just to be smarter than the Iron your working with" The same applies to what we are jawing about here. They are out smarting us by simply useing our on creed and codes against us. There are to many parrables to list.

There will be another election in couple years and unless a lot of people can stop gawking & jawing long enough prepare they will doom them self's to more of the same. There are some really big issues on the table at this moment and they are not going away soon. The best way to handle them is not always the most obvious and the final solution (right or wrong) will never happen, for question that gets answered there will be 100  new ones and most will obscure any positive results.

Time to put on the poker face and get down to buisness. While most of us do nothing but move the air around the opposition is getting organized, the only thing in our favour is that there is so many different organizations that they are still squabbleing amoung them selves but that wont last long.
Parent - - By Mikeqc1 (****) Date 06-15-2010 21:27
The water is boiling and a few frogs are not happy.
Parent - By Mikeqc1 (****) Date 06-15-2010 21:28 Edited 06-15-2010 21:32
What has any1 done........ Shout em out id like to hear them.

Who here has voted in elections?

Ron is right, we cant sit around while the opposition gets organized.
Parent - By J Hall (***) Date 06-16-2010 04:00
It would be well for anyone who cherishes the US and our way of life  to do a little research on George Soros.
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