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- - By ericho Date 10-26-2010 10:19
Is hydrogen Tank similar to CNG tank which are seamless, cryogenic or even carbon fiber in configuration? Or just normal storage tank?
Parent - - By fschweighardt (***) Date 10-26-2010 11:27
Is it for liquid, low pressure gas, or high pressure gas?  You refer to CNG, which makes it sound like a high pressure gas application.

Liquid tank is of course cryogenic, ~-450 Deg F
HP gas storage (2400 psi) is usually a seamless small diameter (~24") vessel
LP gas storage; say maybe 300 psi, is very similar to a standard pressure vessel
Parent - - By ericho Date 10-27-2010 02:35
It is actually a gaseous hydrogen storage tank. Working pressure is about 500 psi. What should be the configuration?
Parent - By fschweighardt (***) Date 10-27-2010 11:07
It will be a relatively standard pressure vessel, probably elliptical heads.  Standard steels will probably work just fine
Parent - - By G.S.Crisi (****) Date 10-27-2010 16:34
Depends on the quantity you're going to store.
For smaller quantities, it's more convenient a cylindrical, horizontal vessel with semielliptical heads. For larger quantities it's more convenient a spherical vessel.
What's the difference? The spherical vessel has a thinner wall thickness than the cylindrical one. Less weight, lower cost.
BUT, the cylindrical vessel is easier and cheaper to fabricate. The shell is rolled and the heads are either pressed or spun. The cylindrical vessel is also easier to erect. Less manhours, lower cost.
So, you should make a cost estimate for both cases and choose the more convenient one from an economical point of view.
Just for your information, here in Brazil, where both vessels would be designed and fabricated to ASME VIII Div 1 (Div 1 is OK for 500 psig), the point of equilibrium is about 140 cubic meters. For smaller volumes the cylindrical vessel is more convient, for larger volumes it's more convenient the spherical vessel.
Now, this is in Brazil. You're probably using the Australian pressure vessel standard and in your country (Singapore?) the price of steel, wages, government taxes etc. are different. So you should make a cost estimate before taking a decision.
Giovanni S. Crisi
Sao Paulo - Brazil
Parent - - By ericho Date 10-28-2010 00:18
Thanks, gents.

By the way, i do also understand on the threat of hydrogen embrittlement issue. What are the typical types of materials recommended for the fabrication of such storage tanks?
Parent - By fschweighardt (***) Date 10-28-2010 01:30
Austenitic SS is pretty good, but also pretty expensive.  Consider a clad vessel perhaps, if 100% ss is too costly.  500 PSI is quite doable in a cylindrical vessel with maybe 2:1 ellip. heads.
Parent - By G.S.Crisi (****) Date 10-26-2010 15:06 Edited 10-27-2010 16:36
This answer has been replaced by the one dated October 27.
Giovanni S. Crisi
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