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Up Topic Welding Industry / Inspection & Qualification / washing welds or welding without the addition of filler
- - By diverdileo (*) Date 02-08-2011 03:58
What are the pros and con of passing the tig torch over previous weld without the addition of filler metal known as washing?  Why would some weld procedures prohibit washing while others allow it other than cosmetic reasons.
Parent - By aevald (*****) Date 02-08-2011 04:19
Hello diverdileo, you ask some doosies for questions. Once again there are a "large" number of variables that could be considered to properly answer your question. A large number of autogeneous welds are made with the GTAW process, food service and medical are prime examples. Small, smooth, autogeneous welds are often used for the cosmetic as well as non-bacterial harboring benefits. Other materials don't fair so well when they are welded autogeneously due to centerline cracking issues and others, an example might include welding 6061-T6 aluminum to itself without filler(that's the quick description, there are plenty of variables there as well). In some instances there might be certain metallurgical issues that could compromise either the corrosion resistance of particular materials or the strength, heat input from welding might be an issue. Since GTAW tends to have a higher rate of dilution than other welding processes, using it for "washing" a weld might compromise the weld by increasing this dilution. I am sure others could include a great amount of additional points, so I'll let them do so for now. Best regards, Allan
Parent - - By Metarinka (****) Date 02-13-2011 19:08
it can be used for tempering, or distortion repair via balanced heat input. As mentioned notch and cracks to hide bacteria is another common use for washing beads.  Of course it adds heat input into the metal so that should be a consideration.  It is sometimes used to hide the appearance of heat tinting which can be a big no no.

It's just an autogenous weld over a previous pass, you can use it for whatever need you have.
Parent - - By dmilesdot (**) Date 02-16-2011 15:14
My understanding of not allowing a weld to be "washed" over has to do with the width of the bead vs. the depth of the bead. When you wash back over a weld the width would stay the same as the previous pass but the depth of the weld would not.  Usually when a bead is wider than it is deep it will crack due to shrikage forces. Just my 2cents.
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Parent - By Jim Hughes (***) Date 02-16-2011 15:54
As mentioned already it can be used for distortion control. The areas of consern are two (2)

1. Chromium depletion. It happens during the course of welding but is mitigated by the fact your adding filler. When you wash ( or what we use to call dry washing) over the weld without adding filler you are depleting chromium. It is easy to check, by using a PMI instrument to see if after washing your chromium content is still in compliance.

2. Heat input. Another item that can be checked in real time as long as you have known requirements.

Jim
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