Watch enough gun shows and things like that and listen to them talking about shooting wigged out crack junkies pumped on adrenaline and they just keep coming at you. I think another thing I remember hearing is the velocity of the 9 may end up going thru a "threat". With the ammo tech they got now not sure if that still holds true. My hog leg only creeps along around 800-900 fps, a well place round center of mass is gonna take care of any court costs. They always told us don't shoot to wound, "eliminate the threat".
I was watching something on the military channel the other day and it seemed like it was weaponolgy or something like that. Can't recall the weapon they were using but if I remember right they were tired of the "whimpy, whimpy, whimpy" 9mm over in the sandbox, tired of shooting hostiles many times so they have a new gun out shooting .45. Same thing they've had with the 5.56mm round, guys tired of that bouncing off blades of grass so they brought back the M14 style with the 7.62mm round. I'd say if you had to shoot some meth head all pumped up on junk with a .22 and the junkie is feeling no pain cause he's loaded like a freight train he'll just keep coming at you unless you pop him one between the eyes but how many shows have we seen that talk about the person who survived a knife fight or bullet would to the head, even if you could make that perfect shot in a heated moment, adrenaline rushing, charging junkie coming at you. I'd rather throw down a bowling ball at his chest and deprive him of his forward momentum.
By Tommyjoking 
Date 02-20-2011 01:17
Edited 02-20-2011 01:25
I have to agree with Shawn.....I do not want to pull the gun out, if I do I want you to run, If you don't, I do not want you to live through it or waste my time and ammunition LOL. It is definitely a last resort but if it comes to that I want it to work no question. The little trigger activated laser is a powerful deterrent all by it self I think....you see that dot on you and you can instantly picture the hole that can be there...it brings reality home quick like. I do not need it at all to hit my target, I have one strictly to get the attention of anyone who is going to threaten my safety. Course if you are obviously not armed the gun will stay put...I will probably just whoop your damm ass if I think I got a 50% chance of coming out on top.
9mm is does not deserve the terrible reputation it has...if it truly was so bad there would not be a million diff guns chambered to it. If you are in your swimming trunks on the beach and threatening my life I am sure a good 9mm would eliminate you in one shot if I just got there....two or three if I had been drinking enough beer. But if you are trying to run me down in your camry in the wally world parking lot....I am sure I could easily empty half the mag before I got a lucky one thru your skull.
I AM NOT A GUN NUT, but some of my friends are and I listen carefully. Guns are dangerous as people let them be.
They developed the .45 and 1911 because the then standard .38 Colt used in military issue revolvers wasn't stopping Filapinos who were hopped up on something.
A guy I worked with carried a .40 Glock soon after they came out. He had it loaded with Glaser "Safety Slugs" These disentigrate in the first persons body, no over penetration.
They were developed for police use to protect other cops & people who just happend to be behind the target, the guy I worked wit liked the idea that they could not match recovered bullets to a particular barrel. He wiped His finger prints off the cartriges too, in case He didn't have time to pick up the empties.
I have tried to arange My life so as to not need these precautions.
Dave Boyer,
Unfortunately for your friend, the forensic lab can trace shells to the firing pin and extractor claw marks. Thats why my carry piece is a S&W 686 .357 mag. If you're close enough, the muzzle flash could demotivate many perps.
"I have tried to arange My life so as to not need these precautions." that is probably the best defense...but ya just never know...I have a Step?Brother that was killed in a car jacking 15 years ago at a gas station in New Orleans.
The guy I spoke of carried a Tarrus clone of a S&W Chief's Special before He got the Glock. Retaining the empty casings was one thing He hated to give up.
It is reasonably easy to get a CCW permit here, if You have kept Your nose clean, but I havn't bothered. I have a S&W 27-2 6" .357 with a partrige front sight.
It is too big to conceal, and the front sight doesn't lend itself to fast draw, but it is accurate at long distance. I got it in '78 for target & hunting.
I read about them when they first came out, haven't seen 1 in person yet. It sounds like a reasonable choice.
Taurus has come up with a brilliant marketing scheme to sell their 3rd rate firearms..."Raging Bull", "Judge", etc. I bought a clitaurus gun back in 1990 and will never waste my hard earned money on one ever again.
