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- - By dbigkahunna (****) Date 02-15-2011 13:20
Around age 10 my dad got me one of those little bad-ass compound bow beginner kits. Of course, the first month I went around our land sticking arrows in anything that could get stuck by an arrow. Did you know that a 1955 40 horse Farm-all tractor tire will take 6 rounds before it goes down?
Tough sumbich.
That got boring, so being the 10 yr. old "Dukes of Hazard" fan that I was, I quickly advanced to taking strips of cut up T-shirt doused in chainsaw gas tied around the end and was sending flaming arrows all over the place. One summer afternoon, I was shooting flaming arrows into a large rotten oak stump in our backyard. I looked over under the carport and see a shiny brand new can of starting fluid (Ether). The light bulb went off in my head. I grabbed the can and set it on the stump. I thought that it would probably just spray out in a disappointing manner. Let’s face it, to a 10 yr old mouth-breather like myself, (Ether), really doesn't "sound" flammable. So, I went back into the house and got a 1 pound can of pyrodex (black powder for muzzle loader rifles).
At this point, I set the can of ether on the stump and opened up the can of black powder. My intentions were to sprinkle a little bit around the (Ether) can but it all sorta dumped out on me. No biggie, a 1 lb. pyrodex and 16 oz (Ether) should make a loud pop, kinda like a firecracker you know? You know what? Screw that I'm going back in the house for the other can.
Yes, I got a second can of pyrodex and dumped it too.
Now we're cookin'.
I stepped back about 15 ft and lit the 2 stroke arrow. I drew the nock to my cheek and took aim. As I released I heard a clunk as the arrow launched from my bow. In a slow motion time frame, I turned to see my dad getting out of the truck... OH s**t! He just got home from work. So help me God it took 10 minutes for that arrow to go from my bow to the can. My dad was walking towards me in slow motion with a WTF look in his eyes. I turned back towards my target just in time to see the arrow pierce the starting fluid can right at the bottom. Right through the main pile of pyrodex and into the can.
Oh Sh*t.
When the shock wave hit it knocked me off my feet. I don't know if it was the actual concussion wave that threw me back or just reflex jerk back from 235 fricking decibels of sound. I caught a half a millisecond glimpse of the violence during the initial explosion and I will tell you there was dust, grass, and bugs all hovering 1 ft above the ground as far as I could see. It was like a little low to the ground layer of dust fog full of grasshoppers, spiders, and a worm or two.
The daylight turned purple. Let me repeat this... THE FRICKING DAYLIGHT TURNED PURPLE.
There was a big sweet-gum tree out by the gate going into the pasture.
Notice I said "was". That son-of-a-***** got up and ran off.
So here I am, on the ground blown completely out of my shoes with my Thundercats T-shirt shredded, my dad is on the other side of the carport having what I can only assume is a Vietnam flashback:
ECHO BRAVO CHARLIE YOU'RE BRINGIN' EM IN TOO CLOSE!! CEASE FIRE. DAMMIT CEASE FIRE!!!!!
His hat has blown off and is 30 ft behind him in the driveway. All windows on the north side of the house are blown out and there is a slow rolling mushroom cloud about 2000 ft. over our backyard. There is a Honda 185 3 wheeler parked on the other side of the yard and the fenders are drooped down and are now touching the tires.
I wish I knew what I said to my dad at this moment. I don't know - I know I said something. I couldn't hear. I couldn't hear inside my own head. I don't think he heard me either... not that it would really matter. I don't remember much from this point on. I said something, felt a sharp pain, and then woke up later. I felt a sharp pain, blacked out, woke later....repeat this process for an hour or so and you get the idea. I remember at one point my mom had to give me CPR and Dad screaming "Bring him back to life so I can kill him again". Thanks Mom.
One thing is for sure... I never had to mow around that stump again, Mom had been *****ing about that thing for years and dad never did anything about it. I stepped up to the plate and handled business.
Dad sold his muzzle loader a week or so later. I still have some sort of bone growth abnormality, either from the blast or the beating.
Or both.
I guess what I'm trying to say is, get your kids into archery. It's good discipline and will teach them skills they can use later on in life.
Parent - By Root Pass (***) Date 02-15-2011 14:14
I have read, enjoyed and learned from your posts for a few years now and I have to say this is my favorite! Although I saw my 14 year old making a bow from a youtube video this weekend... Better check on that when I get home!
Parent - By aevald (*****) Date 02-15-2011 14:20
Hello dbigkahunna, your story brings back plenty of memories of pyro-days that I shared with one of my best friends. There wasn't anything that was sacred or safe from us. It's a good thing that our "playground" was pretty much fire-proof or we would have been on the sheriff's/fire department's most wanted list. One of our favorites was a 1/2 full popcan of gas with a wick, hit it with a varmint round and it makes a heck of a fireball. I could go on, but there's always another time. Enjoyed the story/message immensely. Thanks and best regards, Allan
Parent - By grizzzly (**) Date 02-15-2011 16:50
glad to know that i am not the only one who did that
Parent - By TimGary (****) Date 02-15-2011 17:41
I'll have you know that I'm in the middle of a class where I'm teaching students to interpret welding symbols.
The students are trying to concentrate on a difficult quiz, which is hard to do with me sitting here at my desk trying hard but unsucsessfully to contain belly laughs.
You shouldn't post things that hilarious in the middle of the day!

:)
Thanks...
Parent - - By uphill (***) Date 02-15-2011 17:59
So thats where you got your nickname? Good thing your still alive to explain the sequence.. I remember  a 9 year old kid down the street who got talked into using a match to see how much gas was in a tractor (by his younger brother). It took 3 years to grow hair again. Other than the hood blowing him off the tractor all he got was some small burns on his hands and face. His brother was halfway to the house when the match was struck. The hood was 50 feet from the JD. That was early in the families long expensive emergancy room visits
Parent - - By dbigkahunna (****) Date 02-16-2011 00:12
I would like to take credit for this, but sadly cannot. It was sent to me.
I felt sharing it with my friends on the forum would bring a smile.
If you can read this without crying, you are a tougher person than I am!
Parent - By DaveBoyer (*****) Date 02-16-2011 01:31
I had some interesting experiments as did some of My friends, neighbors and a cousin messing with gunpowder, flamable substances, oxidisers etc.

My friend Beardy singed His eybrows together lighting a pile of black powder. What a way to wish a "Happy Mother's Day" to His aunt Judy that He lived with...

My cousin Johnny, the one all the jokes & stories are about, made bombs using baking powder & water in an asprin bottle when He was a little kid. One that didn't go off right away blew up and cut his face 11 stiches worth when He picked it up. By the time He graduated to gunpowder, He had learned not to go up to the "duds" for a day or two.

An older kid down the road blew a hunk out of His leg carrying a chlorine based bomb that went off prematurely.

I learned that You don't need an ignition device for a mixture of gunpowder and dry chlorine [calcium hypochlorate]. It goes off by itself. I should have learned from the above mentioned neighbor.

Another neighbor blew up his bedroom making nitroglycrine. Thanks to His experience, I never tried that.
Parent - - By Pickupman (***) Date 02-16-2011 00:15
My sides are hurtin, and theres tears in me eyes. That is funny. I wish kids could grow up normal today. I remember when I thought it would be a good idea to set off a whole package of Black Cats in an old mattress behind the neighbors house. It's just gonna blow a big puff ball of stuffing out right? Wrong, and Dad didn't think it was funny either. Big smokey fires in the back yard aren't a good way to make friends with the new neighbors.
Parent - - By Tommyjoking (****) Date 02-16-2011 00:53
And I thought I had a "moment" at around 4.5 years seeing what the  blanks my brothers had for the annual mock gun fight at the courthouse would do if I hit them with a framing hammer on the concrete driveway.   Model rocket ignitors in a five gallon gas can half full with a long wire was pretty fun.  Around 5, I thought it was cool to put matches on top of the firecracker and let the explosion light the match and send it sailing.....too bad I was doing that on a road in the middle of 100 acres of tall dry grass my stepdad and Mom where looking at buying (got a pretty good beating over that one).

But Mr. Stewart that story takes the cake and the pan.....funny and scary!!  THX
Parent - By rick harnish (***) Date 02-16-2011 04:00
Yes sir. Aint been in the EXACT situation, but Lord, I cant count the beating for coming close. Thanks for the grins!! And thanks for making me realize what a grip my three boys actually have. Poor kids.
Parent - - By ross (***) Date 02-16-2011 18:19
Great post.

Ross
Parent - - By Pickupman (***) Date 02-17-2011 00:34
Here we are talking (out loud) about blowing stuff up, and there are probably those out there (who are humor impaired), who would charge us all with making terroristic threats just for having these MEMORIES from our youth.:-)
Parent - By J Hall (***) Date 02-17-2011 01:52
This all brings back a lot of good memories of growin up a country kid.

All that is left is the lecture from PartB;)
Parent - - By Blaster (***) Date 02-17-2011 01:48
And the shame is that today if a kid did that the authorities would probably try to prosecute them as a terrorist or something.

I mean honestly, who hasn't blown stuff up as a kid?

Great story!
Parent - By aevald (*****) Date 02-17-2011 03:27
Hey Blaster, not that I ever did......... but, if you did blow up a mailbox today with some M80's or something, you would possibly be brought up on federal charges and recieve between 5 to 10 in the FEDERAL penetentiary. Yes, certainly some stupid kid stuff, but unfortunately we have gone way the other direction on some of this stuff. Best regards, Allan
Parent - - By grizzzly (**) Date 02-17-2011 04:03
one of my friends youngest kids was playing with matches at school and lit a trash can on fire (a teacher carried the can out side so no damage was done) i think that the kid was a second grader. Lawyers were involved by the end of that one.

when i was about 10 i blew up my locker (M80) and i got paddled by the teacher than the Principal than my mom than my Uncle (my dad was out of town) than i got the "just wait until your dad gets home!!!" waiting for him to come home was the longest two days of my life!
Parent - By Paladin (***) Date 02-17-2011 14:14
I grew up in a small collage town. The Kappa Alpha fraternity fired a Civil War type black power cannon at the football games. Naturally I went down to see EXACTLY how they did this.
I pondered on this awhile.

We had what we called a firecracker pistol. It was a 1/2 pipe with a threaded cap on one end. The cap had a small hole that the fuse would stick out so it could be lit. If the right size marble could be fired a couple of hundred yards.

So I opened up about 100 Black Cat firecrackers and took the powder and wrapped it in news paper making a cartridge like the KA's. Then I rammed it down the firecracker pistol and followed it with more news paper wadding. Poked a hole through the primer hole and stuck in a fuse. It made a tremendous boom.

My father was a bit curious and wanted to see the next demo. i don't think he realized how powerful it was. Anyway, the next "shot blew the back of the cap off. Dad said it would be best if I did not do that again.

Floyd
Parent - - By Cumminsguy71 (*****) Date 02-19-2011 18:39
Good story, brings back memories. Good ol' Dukes of Hazzard!

When I was 21, just out of the Marines at my Grandpa's house he tells me about when him and his brother were kids. Took his dads old side by side double barrel 10 ga. out back, loaded it and then turned it nose first into the dirt and the mud and he said they just kept on shoving the barrel's into the dirt. When the felt like they had done a good job they took the time to tie it to a log, then ran a string/rope tied to both triggers and took shelter behind another log and then pulled the string. He said this was some old gun, built like a tank. Mind you this was back in 92' when he told me the story and he was probably 70 then and somewhere around 10-12 when this happened. He chuckled and said it blew both barrels and swelled it up in the middle like a watermelon. Never heard what his dad did about that one. It's funny, hearing this story from him and the time he let me borrow his over/under shotgun he says, "whatever you do don't drop that shotgun on the stock", Ok, I said, he says, "it's worth over $500, so just don't drop it".

When I was 10 or so my cousin didn't have access to black powder but loved chemistry. So, one day I'm helping him in his room and we are burning wooden matches then crushing the remains in one of those fancy chemist type bowls with the round masher thing(sorry, not anything near scientific). Then he would mix this with sulpher bought at the drug store and seems like he would add something else, can't remember what. He had it all proportioned out to make his own black powder. The biggest one I remember him making was probably 4-5 inches long and about 2 inches in diameter made out of plaster, bought at the local drug store and meticulously filled thru the wick hole. We walked into the wood with a friend of his for miles carrying this bomb. We ended up finding an old tree, missing the bark and it had a nice little pocket that our explosive device would fit into. I think we were a bit nervous so put a 1 minute fuse in it, hobby store for model rockets, then lit it and ran. When the smoke cleared we had a once vertical tree in the horizontal position with us laughing and saying holy cow we noticed we were only about 200 feet back into the woods from a house and about 5 miles from home as a crow flies.

Beatings, always tell my kids they don't know how good they have it. I tell my kids that my folks beat me like a rented mule, didn't clean up the dog crap, got beat, got stiches in my head because the babysitter made milkshakes the night before and used all of the milk, ma was none to pleased and chucked the old style can opener at me, caught me right in the back of the head and ended up getting 10 or more stiches for that one. My kids just sit there, mouth open in amazement, can't believe that ever happened, good times, LoL!!
Parent - - By Pickupman (***) Date 02-19-2011 20:08
Now if youda had on your PPE........
Parent - By Cumminsguy71 (*****) Date 02-20-2011 00:58
More like if I had my goalie equipment on!! LOL!!
Parent - - By DaveBoyer (*****) Date 02-20-2011 01:46 Edited 02-20-2011 01:51
That other chemical is potassium nitrate, or salt peter. I couldn't get any when I was a kid, so I used sodium nitrate. It kind of worked but not that well.

One of the guys had metalic sodium, which has to be kept from moisture to prevent reaction. It was stored in a jar of fuel oil. He would throw a chunk in the pond where it would react violently, releasing hydrogen that would be on fire from the heat of the reaction. It was an impressive show.
Parent - - By Cumminsguy71 (*****) Date 02-20-2011 10:15
Salt peter, that's it! Thanks Dave. I think he bought that at the drug store in town to. Metallic sodium, that sounds pretty cool.
Parent - By HillbillyWelder (**) Date 02-20-2011 15:03
Salt Peter, 3F or 4F black powder, powder laundry soap, duct tape and green canon fuse makes for some nice flash bangs
- - By Caleb C. (**) Date 03-07-2011 16:43
Tommyjoking's post reminded me of one of my dim-witted episodes as a kid. I had the bright idea to cut open a 12ga. shotgun shell and empty all the bb's. I then stuck it in the muddy ground and hit it with a nail and a Estwing framing hammer. That primer came back at me and lodged in my eyebrow right above my right eye. If it had been 3/8" lower I would be wearing an eye patch right now! As much as I hate to admit it, I'm pretty young...that was only about 12 years ago! Ahh the joys of being a country boy!
Parent - - By Pickupman (***) Date 03-08-2011 00:06
That'll leave a mark.:eek:
Parent - By Mat (***) Date 03-09-2011 17:58
I never did find out who, but back in highschool on a school trip, one of my classmates threw a can of hair spray into the campfire...
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