I've got a Wendy's and I love it! Have not used it in months though, bought a Miller digital elite last year and a speedglas a few weeks ago, really like those but I still love the darkness that the pancake hoods offer. I've got real sensitive eyes(blue) and the pure dark from the pancake is my favorite thing about them. I think it makes everything more clear as you don't have light on the inside of the lense. Well worth the money. I agree with the safety glasses though, real pain in the bum when your welding and swapping glasses for pancake. I know some guys use those Tom Waters safety glasses(look like John Lennon shades). They may work for some guys but for me I get a good crosswind and it blows debris in my eyes and it sticks so I need real safety glasses.