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- - By graydog Date 01-30-2012 06:23
Farm tractor shredder blades are typically 3" x 1/2" and wear out on the ends.  I do not think it is safe to cut off 5" or so, and butt weld new ends on the blades. I think hitting an obstacle such as a rock or concrete curb will break the butt welded blade much easier than an unwelded blade.  These shredders are driven at a relatively high RPM and could send a broken end (5"x3"x1/2") a long distance and cause injury or death IMHO.
What is your opinion?
Parent - - By 99205 (***) Date 01-30-2012 07:02
"could send a broken end (5"x3"x1/2") a long distance and cause injury or death", pretty much sums it up.
Parent - - By Dualie (***) Date 01-30-2012 07:34
ever seen someone throw an Axe or a knife into a big block of wood?     imagine that was a bystander.
Parent - - By graydog Date 01-30-2012 21:48
Thanks for the reply and your opinions.  This question came up at http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/little-tip-mig-welding-tools-used-212590-3.html.  I am a retired firefighter / farmer and just hate seeing dead bodies, if I can do anything to prevent it.  Some people just don't want any other opinions.
Parent - By sparksandslag (**) Date 01-31-2012 04:58
Shredder blades are way to cheap, comparatively speaking, to do that sort of rigging on them.  Spend your money  on new blades, not patching material and rods!
Parent - - By Northweldor (***) Date 01-31-2012 13:53
graydog:

And, the "it worked for 40 acres" is all he needs to justify his opinion, according to the Farm Code!
Parent - - By Tommyjoking (****) Date 01-31-2012 15:41
Hi Greydog

I have been at this for a while, from jet aircraft, pressure vessels to forklifts and trackhoes.  Others responding here have comparable or better expertise.  While it "Might" (maybe maybe not) be possible to make that repair with all the right circumstances in place correct weld deposit/material chemistry/procedure.  I would not touch it with a ten foot pole.  That is an incredibly stupid risk over a few $$.  Let's see, the price of a blade vs a family member or friends life....hmmm.
Parent - By JMCInc (**) Date 01-31-2012 19:00
.... A Hobart 110 mig welder with .23 wire. :eek:
Parent - - By Cumminsguy71 (*****) Date 01-31-2012 22:27
I suppose this can be done but as everyone else has said what does a new one cost and what are the risks? If your out bush hoggin in the middle of b.f.e someplace and one flies apart then who cares but is the time/effort -vs- longevity of the repair worth it compared to just replacing it with a new one in the first place. I'll admit, I've done it. Old teacher I had in welding college brought one in, said here, grab a 7018 and weld it up. So I did. As far as I know he's still using it and that has been some three years ago. Don't know if I'd want to do it where there were a bunch of buildings or people around though.
Parent - - By J Hall (***) Date 01-31-2012 23:38
Tue, but when you can buy new blades for $30.00 each, it isn't even worth the risk of cutting a tire should a blade fail.
Parent - By Cumminsguy71 (*****) Date 02-01-2012 01:49
So true! Tractor tires are expensive!
Parent - - By Northweldor (***) Date 02-01-2012 15:05
graydog:

The welds gow589 so proudly displays are cratered at start and finish, and have unfilled notches in these areas. He doesn't show the root penetration, or preparation, or sequence of passes, all of which would be interesting, given his unusual choice of process and filler. (I say "choice", because he apparently has a water-cooled Lincoln Squarewave 175, which would have been my choice, in stick or TIG, for work on 1/2" med. carbon steel). I would not guarantee those welds to last, even without his doubtful choice of machine and wire.

Since he apparently has such contempt for your (and our) "opinions", perhaps you can invite him to join this thread to defend his procedure. (If he doesn't come, give up, since, as has been said above, you can't fix stupid!).
Parent - - By jpill (**) Date 02-01-2012 20:28
But....he also likes to leave whiskers on a ground clamp with his beloved .023 wire (and says it makes a better start than cutting with pliers to the proper stickout length)....I detect a SUPERWELDER!
Parent - By graydog Date 02-11-2012 08:28
Thanks for all your input, guys.  I asked him a simple question, "Is that safe?".  You would have thought I accused his mother of being a hooker.  I saw it as him trying to save $30 and getting someone killed.  Thanks again.
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