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- - By SSPOWER Date 11-01-2013 15:32
Hey guys,

We are trying to figure out how to qualify pipe with a wall thickness of .095 with GTAW. D1.1 will not work because it is only for 1/8" to unlimited. But when you go to D1.3 there is nothing that states on how to qualify pipe. It only talks about sheet metal and nothing on how to qualify pipe. If I could get some help that would be great.
Thanks
Parent - - By jwright650 (*****) Date 11-01-2013 15:42
Are you testing fillet welds or groove welds?

Maybe use AWS B2.1 to test and qualify the procedure and welder?
Parent - - By SSPOWER Date 11-01-2013 16:06
Thank you, Ya I'll take a look in B2.1. We will be testing to groove welds
Parent - - By 803056 (*****) Date 11-01-2013 17:04
Is this for a structural application?

Al
Parent - - By SSPOWER Date 11-01-2013 19:19
Yes it is for a structural application.
Parent - - By 803056 (*****) Date 11-01-2013 19:35 Edited 11-01-2013 19:55
If it is for a structural application, the Owner, through the Engineer can expand the scope of D1.1 to include thinner materials, unlisted materials, etc. That being the case, Engineer can make the necessary modification to D1.1 and use it where it is applicable. Where D1.1 doesn't meet the needs of the Owner, modify D1.1 so that it will work.

For example; you are using an AISI material that is not listed. Include the unlisted material as prequalified if it is low carbon (0.3%) steel. If the undercut provisions are too lenient, tighten up on the limitations. If the root opening or the joint details do not work for your application, they too can be included per D1.1 provided the Engineer (representing the Owner) concurs. If you need to restrict the amount a weld can be oversized, add it to the engineering requirements and acceptance criteria. If you need the intermittent welds to be located within 1/2 inch of the "ideal", add the new requirement to the engineering requirements, acceptance criteria, etc.

Normally, structural projects would simply include the new or modified requirements in the project specifications. This doesn't sound like a typical steel structure, i.e., a building. Maybe this is for some small item that is being built in-house. It doesn't matter as long as the new engineering requirements and acceptance criteria are noted where they will be seen by whoever is actually constructing it.

By the way, even the qualification requirements can be modified by the Engineer. You cannot do reduced section tensile tests as described in D1.1? Have the Engineer change the reduced section tensile tests to full section tensile tests. Instead of welding one sample, weld the number of samples needed to suit the Engineer's requirements. 

It goes without saying that the Engineer needs to carefully consider the implications of any code modifications before instituting the changes.

Al
Parent - By SSPOWER Date 11-01-2013 20:55
Al,

Thanks you, That helped out a ton. This will help us get pointed in the right direction. If we have anymore questions you will probably see me back on here asking for more help.
Thanks

Derek
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