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- - By MRWeldSoCal (***) Date 05-06-2015 16:45
I didnt get any bites in Metallurgy so Ill throw this here

My question is very general and many.  We are doing tensile testing on some 6061-T6.  We have 3 PQR's one done with AC, one with DC+, and one with AC/DC+.  These plates have been heat treated back to T-6 condition.  Now before we did these plate we were sent samples to pull and we could not reach the yield the customer was aiming for in the 34K+ range.  We did a set of tensiles exactly like D1.2 states to cut them and got into the mid 24K range for yield.  We are using a a united testing tensile machine computer aided with extensometer.   After we got those results we changed the dimensions to narrow up the sample.  From a reduced section thickness of 1.5" to 1" and another to 3/4".  The 1 inch and 3/4 both yielded above 34K.  Why is that?  Also will a shorter reduced section cause higher yield?  Lastly if the whole plate is theoretically welded the same, should they all be proportional to their area in the reduced section?

A bit towards metallurgy question:  If aluminum is welded hot and gets too hot it can become brittle in the weld zone.  Now if its taken back up T6 in heat treat, will that phase change "fix" the over heated weld? or will the weld still hold some qualities of the less than favorable welding?  Basically can heat treat fix anything structurally that would normally fail in the as welded condition.

Thanks
-Jay
Parent - - By aevald (*****) Date 05-06-2015 17:12
Hello Jay, aluminum is a funny bird in that it generally goes against everything that you every heard or thought you knew about metal in general. I believe that Al referred to is as "almost metal" or something to that effect.

If you are welding 6061-T6 then it is in its "hardened" condition. If it is subjected to preheat and then welding and it exceeds its temperature threshold it will "soften" not become brittle. Thus it is difficult to achieve any sort of decent tensiles without re-conditioning the parts before they are tested or put into service. You also need to be careful about the alloy that you weld it with as some fillers will not "harden" when the part is heat treated back to the T6 condition. I believe that some pretty much weld the particular material that you are using with the "hot-n-fast" method, this prevents excessive heat input and soak time and allows for the achievement of higher as-welded tensiles.

As to your issues with specimen sizes and tensile yields that is definitely a bit odd. unless I am misinterpreting what you have stated.

I'll look forward to posts from others on this. Best regards, Allan
Parent - - By MRWeldSoCal (***) Date 05-06-2015 17:27
Yea my bad on the terms, not brittle, but soften.  Used to typing about steel and more heat leading to less ductility.  This company is trying to consistently achieve a yield higher than 33K.   And yes that's how the samples came about.  We did a few round bars of what we could from what was left and got high yield from those too.
Parent - - By ssbn727 (*****) Date 05-08-2015 06:23
Have you tried 4943 filler from Maxal/Hobart? Look it up because if you must use the original dimensions to test then 4943 will enable you to achieve the yields you seek and possibly more... Here's a link to an article regarding the 4943 filler metal for Aluminium:

http://www.thefabricator.com/article/consumables/to-infinity-and-beyond-with-the-help-of-a-filler-metal

Here are some more links also:

http://maxal.com/Hobart_Maxal_4943.pdf

http://awo.aws.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/energyconference/TonyAnderson-TheUseofAluminuminCryogenicApplicationsandNewFillerMetalDevelopments.pdf

http://www.thefabricator.com/article/aluminumwelding/aluminum-workshop-guidelines-for-preheating-t6

Here's a link to Aluminium articles in "The Fabricator/ Practical Welding Today" which were written by Frank Armao of Lincoln Electric:

http://www.thefabricator.com/search/advanced?page=1&title=&author=&text=&content_type=article&publication=pwt&category=aluminumwelding

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/aws/wj_201307/index.php?startid=32#/34

Here's an interesting article:

http://enpub.fulton.asu.edu/cement/papers/Deju_Characterization%20of%20Dynamic%20Tensile%20Testing%20using%20Aluminum%20Alloy%206061-T6%20at%20Intermediate%20Strain%20Rates_Deju_Zhu_2011.pdf

An interesting *video:        *Note: This video has more than one part so don't think that it's finished yet until everything is shown.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8U4G5kcpcM

And this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b6UIsANNl0

I'm not going to overwhelm you with more links even though I have so many more to share so, I'll just end here by saying Enjoy!:smile::grin::lol::yell::twisted::yell::wink::roll::cool:

Respectfully,
Henry
Parent - By MRWeldSoCal (***) Date 05-08-2015 18:53
WOW thanks Henry that's a ton of info, Ill start reading!

-J
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