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- - By TA.welding Date 06-24-2015 12:21
Dear All

Could any of you share your experiences on usage of cellulosic electrodes on high strength materials such as X70.

Would limiting hardness to a certain level help avoid possible hydrogen embrittlement , if so what would be this limit for non-sour gas services ?

Regards

A.
Parent - By jarsanb (***) Date 06-24-2015 13:26
API 1104 Appendix B suggests harness limits of 350 HV (Vickers), evaluated to C.E. of pipe materials, SMYS, and welding process. When using cellulosic electrodes 350Hv might be high when considering thermal cooling capacity and carbon equivalent of older systems (typically vintage X52). This report by Det Norske Veritas is very informative to get you started. PRCI (technical toolboxes) offers an excellent course on this very issue, worth your time. There are many variables, options, to control these issues.

http://ntl.bts.gov/lib/44000/44200/44204/44204.pdf
http://www.ttoolboxes.com/training/Coursedocuments/88/In_Service_Weld_TTI_TR11.pdf
Parent - By jarsanb (***) Date 06-24-2015 14:07 Edited 06-24-2015 14:13
I assumed you were referring to In-Service welding....if not, yes there are still concerns for new construction and pre-fab. There was a post a couple months back regarding soaking cellulosic electrodes in water which eventually led this discussion there as well. A couple links were posted.

http://ntl.bts.gov/lib/44000/44200/44214/44214.pdf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wjz8eh3uxkU

What the heck....I'll throw another into the mix:
http://primis.phmsa.dot.gov/construction/docs/ConstructionIssues.pdf

Too much info??
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