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- - By Bowler_Hat (**) Date 02-25-2016 16:16
Hey All,

Simple as that, when it comes to the travel speed in a Pre Qualified WPS table 3.8 (D1.1) give us the details of ">25% increase or decrease"

But...how do we find the initial value? I've got the manufacturer's page and haven't seen a details for travel speed?

Is this a matter of 'practical values'?

Cheers!
Parent - By welderbrent (*****) Date 02-25-2016 16:25
Travel speed will obviously be dependent upon several factors.  Key of which are volts, amps/WFS, electrode diameter, and bead width and depth. 

The only way to determine it is to set all of your other variables and then time it and try to keep all other variables constant.  'Try' as some are going to change with electrode stick out, arc length, slight variations in weld width, etc.  You get your most desired for final weld quality and profile and measure your inches per minute.  Then you can easily determine the 25% increase/decrease which is often the amount you need just to perform normal welding as you will slow down or speed up during the welding to keep the weld sized as you want because of changes in openings, variations from previous passes, etc.

He Is In Control, Have a Great Day,  Brent
Parent - - By Lawrence (*****) Date 02-25-2016 17:00
You can pretty easily calculate what your travel speed "should be" and then verify by trials.

Assuming GMAW, FCAW or SAW (semi-automatic or machine)  you can be very scientific about this and there are several advantages to this approach if you are doing anything in volume.  But you didn't ask about that :)

http://weldingdesign.com/archive/pre-calculating-wire-feed-speed-travel-speed-and-voltage?page=2

Deposition rate and weld size are the variables that will be most important in factoring.  The link above breaks it down really simply.

This information is also in the Lincoln Procedure Manual and several other good publications.
Parent - By Bowler_Hat (**) Date 02-26-2016 10:42 Edited 02-26-2016 10:49
There a large flaw in this article:

7.96 x 1/5 x .2887 doesn't = 5.52 Inches per min.
7.96 x 1/5 x .2887 = .45961
Perhaps I'm loosing something in unit conversions here...looks like they forgot to include the 'Multiply by 12' to get inches per min. Else one is getting feet per min.
Parent - By another1 Date 02-25-2016 19:35
Travel speed is a by-product of the restrictions in table 3.7, but the range should not be wider than +/-25% of the average value.  So 7.5-12.5 is an acceptable range, but 6-14ipm would be too wide (10 ipm average in both cases).

As others have stated, the initial/average value  it could be determined by welding some samples within the electrical parameter and bead size limits of table 3.7.
- By 803056 (*****) Date 02-26-2016 04:07
Consider visiting the manufacturer's web site. They typically provide the recommended welding parameters and deposition rate. Using a simple math, you can calculate the volume needed to be filled, the inches of electrode needed, using WFS determine the time required to fill the groove, and then approximate the size and volume of the typical weld bead.

Al
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