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- - By mwilliams93 (*) Date 11-07-2017 11:50
Gentlemen,
So I had a question brought to me earlier about whether or not a CWI had to do final visual on a part done to D14.1. I'm unfamiliar with said code so I did some reading last night on it.

10.1.2 stated that besides visual, any NDE shall be in accordance with SNT-TC-1A. This leads me to believe that, yes, you will need a CWI or the other acceptable choices stated in 10.1.3.

Is this a correct interpretation?

Thanks
Parent - - By 803056 (*****) Date 11-07-2017 12:51
What does 10.1.3 say?

Al
Parent - - By mwilliams93 (*) Date 11-07-2017 15:36
10.1.3 states

"Inspectors responsible for acceptance or rejection of material and workmanship shall be qualified. The basis of inspector qualification shall be documented. If the engineer elects to the basis of inspector qualification, it shall be so stated in the contract documents. The following are acceptable qualification bases:"

The choices are CWI or SCWI, CWB, or --- an engineer or technician who, by training or experience , or both, in metals fabrication, inspection, and testing, is competent to perform inspection of the work.

The last choice is what is throwing me off. Could a regular QC worker qualified in visual be competent enough to do the visual inspection....UNLESS the contract requires a CWI, SCWI, or CWB?
Parent - By 803056 (*****) Date 11-07-2017 16:40
As long as the inspectors qualifications are documented and acceptable to the client, all is good. Generally, qualification involves a record of the inspector's training, relevant work experience, and examinations. AWS has a document, B5.2, that addresses the inspection specialist and the systems that need to be in place. It defines an employer based certification process and is modeled after SNT-TC-1A.

It all boils down to the customer's acceptance of your "qualification" process.

Al
Parent - - By welderbrent (*****) Date 11-07-2017 17:08
Good Day,

Many QC and NDT programs have allowances for employer specific training, experience, testing and qualification.  These allow for the employer to train specifically for their needs. 

CWI's get a lot of education in industry sectors that they will never work in and aren't applicable at least immediately if ever.  Same with NDT techs who get qualified through ASNT and not a Level III working with the employer. 

The spec that Al mentioned, B5.1, for AWS/CWI applications and SNT-TC-1A for ASNT applications provides an avenue whereby an inspector may be educated, trained, and qualified for the work at hand without the broader, deeper, more intensive testing required to attain CWI or Level II status. 

The third provision you mention is very often accepted by customers as long as there truly is a legitimate program in place. 

Customers can always stipulate other provisions which can usually be met on a temporary basis by hiring a local independent CWI to perform all final inspections and make sure in progress work is acceptable.  It may even be arranged for the customer to hire them as a Verification Inspector representing them and not you.  That is the procedure used for many structural building projects and the same can be incorporated into the equipment codes as well. 

He Is In Control, Have a Great Day,  Brent
Parent - - By 803056 (*****) Date 11-07-2017 19:18 Edited 11-11-2017 04:15
B5.1 is the qualification requirements for the WI and is a sister document to QC1. In other words B5.1 is the qualification requirements that must be met by an individual that wants to be a CWI if they can pass the examinations.

B5.2 is the for welding inspection specialist. The requirements are not as stringent as those of B5.1. That isn't to say an employer could not use B5.1 as the basis of qualifying the welding inspector, but it may be more involved than is needed to perform in-house inspections.

Best regards - Al
Parent - - By welderbrent (*****) Date 11-11-2017 03:04
Thanks Al.  Wasn't thinking clear enough and used the wrong document.

Brent
Parent - By 803056 (*****) Date 11-11-2017 04:17
No problem Brent. I just didn't want anyone to get the idea that B5.1 was the only document describing the recommended qualifications to be an inspector. B5.2 is sufficient for many in-house programs.

Al
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