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- - By HappyWelder (*) Date 08-04-2003 20:46
Should seamless and seam-welded pipes of grade 2 titanium be annealed after welding. Some sources says that you don´t have to heat treat grade 2 titanium unless the welded object is "complicated". Other sources says that this grade is commonly heat treated due to stress-releaving and better stress-corrosion resistance.

I´m not familiar with titanium and wonder what really happens with the mechanical properties of the weld metal and the HAZ (and the as-delivered annealed tubing) during post weld annealing and/or stress-relievment. What properties get better and what properties get deterioated?

/Happy
Parent - - By ssbn727 (*****) Date 08-08-2003 02:38
Hello Happywelder!

A google, yahoo, msn, etc. search will give you a broad perspective regarding titanium and it's applications, and advantages when compared to other metals...

Try this website for size: http://www.azom.com/Details.asp?ArticleID=1245
This one not too bad:http://www.astm.org/cgi-bin/SoftCart.exe/DATABASE.CART/REDLINE_PAGES/B363.html?L+mystore+subi4996

This Website is a pretty good one especially for your PWHT question also: http://www.titanium.com/tech_manual/tech4.cfm

Heres one of the better ones: http://www.deutschetitan.de/eng/profi/kb11.html

Of course, you should have one of these gadgets:
http://www.read-tpt.com/featuredetail.asp?ID=173

I almost forgot about this one from the Hobart Institute of welding Technology: http://www.welding.org/newsletters/summer2002/titanium.html

These four should answer most if not all of your questions...
Of course there are other sites with great info also so, happy hunting, and I hope this helps!

Btw, I welded alot of Ti in New Jersey for Titanium Industries (now called Titanium Fabrication Corp.)...
Back then, we mostly used GTAW, and sometimes GTAW-P...


I believe the most important emphasis was on keeping everything super clean!!! We used lab grade gases because, we did'nt want to take any chances. Alot of the vessels we made were for the pulp/paper industries but, we also did work for a variety of of other industries also...

I personally welded anything from small diameter tubing to two inch thick Ti!!! Lots of prep work for back purging though...
Make sure your trailing shield is working properly also!!!

The US Navy is replacing alot of their copper-nickel piping with Ti, and on the newer ships their using Ti instead...

Lawrence Livemore's Ti experiments in realtime via the use of a synchrotron is a definite stop in your Ti info journey: http://www-cms.llnl.gov/s-t/welding.html
I saved the best for last!!! Titanium Information Group/TWI Best practices Guide "Welding Titanium-A Designers and Users Handbook"
in.pdf: http://www.obimatic.co.uk/Titanium%20Guide.pdf

Anywho, Good luck!!!

Respectfully,

SSBN727 Run Silent... Run Deep!!!

P.S. Remember the activated GTAW flux I was asking about?
Well, here's another interesting website which also includes Ti :
http://www.geocites.com/saidov_r/pros.htm

I hope this is sufficient for now... Oh yeah, Corrosion resistance gets better while ductility deteriorates with grade 2 Ti... Almost forgot!!!
I'm out of here!!!
Parent - By ssbn727 (*****) Date 08-09-2003 12:46
Hello again Happywelder!

I almost forgot about this site by RTI International:
http://www.rti-intl.com/products%20&%20services/index_ps.htm

Lots of good info here also...

Of course, if you want to find out info on Ti using GMAW, you'll be able to look @ Ed Craig's website: http://www.weldreality.com .
This site has so much info that you'll have to be a little patient but, eventually you'll find what you're looking for...

Respectfully,

SSBN727 Run Silent... Run Deep!!!
Parent - - By G.S.Crisi (****) Date 08-12-2003 19:06
Apart from ssbn's recommendations, I suggest you to get in touch with The Titanium Corp. of America. They're the kings of titanium and they're quite willing to help in titanium related problems.
Their site is www.timet.com
Giovanni s. Crisi
Sao Paulo - Brazil
Parent - By HappyWelder (*) Date 08-21-2003 00:49
Thank You 727 and Crisi

Sometime you are forced to make decisions fast. People around you consider you are THE expert of welding just because you know a bit more then Joe Sixpack. That obviously proves how little they know about welding

Input from your peers means a lot. Thank You.

Best Regards

Happy
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