ASME "P" & "F" Numbers

Date 06-26-2004 12:02

2000 Series Aluminum Alloy; Aluminum Alloy; Metal; Nonferrous Metal.
You 2319 is SFA-5.10 F No. 25 See ASME Sec. IX QW-432.
Im still looking for the 2219.

By wonderweld Date 06-28-2004 21:56

NDTIII, thanks for the reply. Everywhere I look it is not recommended that you weld 2219. But somebody has to do it. I'm going to write the procedure, WPS / PQR and see what happens. Going to incorporate the Meta-Lax vibe(Weld Conditioning) system into the equation and go for it. Thanks for the info. Drop a line if you find that "P" number for the 2219 material.

By NDTIII

Date 06-29-2004 09:19

Try these links. I cannot find a P-number for 2219. I do know it is Aircraft aluminum and the recommeded filler metal is 2319.
http://klabs.org/DEI/References/design_guidelines/design_series/1205msfc.pdf
http://www.suppliersonline.com/propertypages/2219.asp#Spec
http://www.aerospacemetals.com/aluminum.html
http://asm.matweb.com/search/SpecificMaterial.asp?bassnum=MA2219T81

It doesn't seem to be referenced in ASME Sec. II or IX, but it is referenced in AMS-4031.

Give me your email address and I will send you something about it.

By wonderweld Date 07-06-2004 20:02

NDTIII,
Here it is... The e-mail that is.
rjm@tellink.net
wonderweld

By Bonniweldor (**)

Date 07-13-2004 12:57

There may be no particular ASME P, or S Number assigned for your particular alloy, and, thus, the base material would be "unassigned". In that case, you would record the base metal identity in the PQR data, per ASME, and subsequent WPS(s) would be restricted to that particular material. See QW-420, QW-424.

By Niekie3 (***)

Date 07-18-2004 19:46

Hi wonderweld

You have to remember that ASME IX is part of the ASME Boiler and pressure vessel code. As such, it only really covers materials that will typically be used in such applications. It is my bet that Alloy 2219 is not usually used in these applications. As noted in one of the other posts, you can just make it "unassigned" and move further from there. At any rate, it would be easier if you had an ASTM spec and/or an UNS number. Then it would be easier to search for it in ASME IX.

Regards
Niekie Jooste
Fabristruct Solutions