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- - By Mark31 (*) Date 07-17-2004 17:56

During a weld test 6" sch 80 pipe can the welder weld or grind on the inside of the pipe?

Do u x-ray socket welds for anything other then for gap space under ASME B31.3?
Parent - By thirdeye (***) Date 07-17-2004 19:54
Mark31,

Generally (you didn’t reference any specific code) on a pipe butt weld test, you are allowed a certain amount of end preparation or cleaning to comply with the welding procedure (bevel angle, land etc.), and for alignment. Any work to the ID of the pipe is usually done with a file. After the test has begun, no welding or grinding on the ID is allowed. We use a small die grinder with a wire wheel to clean the root area of all slag and smoke residue before visual and RT. All codes have specific instructions for preparing weld specimens for destructive tests.

Random RT is used to verify the minimum 1/16” gap on socket welds but it will disclose discontinuities in the fillet weld also, a common one being porosity. We request a supplemental specification that includes acceptance criteria and the amount of progressive sampling if the examination of socket welds is requested. (Of course when the verification RT does show a crack or major inclusions, the contractor always cuts them out).

Parent - By thirdeye (***) Date 07-17-2004 21:29
Mark31

One of my pet peeves is watching a client or another inspector test a welder without giving written instructions in the form of a welding procedure. Here is a link to a generic welding procedure for qualification of welders and production welding that you might find interesting.

http://www.mangowp.org/mango_procedure_1.htm
Parent - - By thetruth Date 12-07-2004 19:48
It is hard for me to believe that some people waste their money to perform RT to check for the gap in socket welds. If you read the Code requirement closely you will notice that the gap is to exist PRIOR to welding. It does not have to exist in the finished weld. Come on people - that's why you place the gap between the end of the pipe and the fitting - so that the weld can shrink as it cools.
Parent - By pipewelder_1999 (****) Date 12-08-2004 03:05
I believe this is one of the many welding wives tales that have propogated through the years. I'm sure that some engineer thought this would "Add value" or "Provide Objective Quality Evidence" to an object that could have been verified by using some very simple visual inspection.

I rank it up there with "2-1/2 core wire diameter for 7018", no weave beads on code welds, and the use of the higher strength weldmetal when welding different basemetal strengths.

All of which may have had a valid reason for the specific project but after that became gospel to many.

Of course this is my opinion and is based solely on many searches for this information years ago.

Have a good day

GA
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