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- - By sbruno (*) Date 08-31-2005 22:44
Can A588 be subsituted for A709 Gr. 50 in a D1.5 bridge PQR plate.
Parent - - By CHGuilford (****) Date 09-01-2005 10:15
A588 is equivalent to A709 Gr 50W. The A709 Gr 50 is equivalent to A572 Gr 50.

The answer is yes you can, unless you are working with a contract requiring otherwise.
I normally run D1.5 PQRs with A588/A709-50W so that the test will qualify the lesser grades as well.

I would carefully review the A588 MTR to be sure that the material fully meets ALL requirements of A709, because sometimes the documentation has errors and omissions.
I also would be checking my minimum chemical percentages and/or Carbon equivalency against the D1.5 requirements- some heats don't quite make it. Check the backing material requirements also.

I have run into some customers that want the base metal CVN tested, not just the CVN test required by Fig 5.1. For that reason, I also make sure the plate has been mill tested and reported on the MTR or I request the lab to test samples when the Fig 5.1 tests are run.

Chet Guilford

Chet Guilford
Parent - - By sbruno (*) Date 09-01-2005 14:06
Chet,

Thank you very much.

Sam
Parent - By CHGuilford (****) Date 09-01-2005 21:37
You're welcome
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