I heard of a method of FCAW wirefeed.
Also using co2 as a second shield .
I have heard the the there is slag produced
that can be chipped off with ease..
I am currenlty using a Flux cored wire that produces a dirty
coating that is hard to remove after the bead is completed.
I must also mention I am new to welding as a whole so any information
would be very helpful..
Regards,
Matt
We use 3/32" FCAW(E70T-1) with 100% CO2 shielding here in our shop, but the slag will sometimes pop off after the weld has cooled, without anyone chipping it. When it will do this, you have the parameters set pretty close. The slag should not be that hard to get off, many times the slag will act like an E7028 and just curl up and you can just brush it off. Find your wire mfg's recommended parameters and use them to find the ultimate settings for your particular wire. Some of the any position wires may have slag tht is more difficult to remove, but even that can be set for easy slag removal.
HTH,
John Wright
By DLCH
Date 10-27-2005 12:36
The weld joint region must be clean before you start weiding. Oil, water, paint coating and debris will cause weld defects like porosity and slag inclusion.
By -
Date 10-27-2005 12:57
John Wright is absolutely correct in everything he said, but please allow me go one step farther. The same holds true with stainless steel FCAW, using the same facts John presented. Since you didn't mention if you were talking about carbon steel or stainless steel, I just wanted to add to John's response. Thanks..
Chuck
Generally speaking, FCAW slag is harder to remove when the volts/amps are on the low side or if you travel too fast. In fact that is one of the most common mistakes we run into in our shop; that the welder is not using at a high enough heat input.
Also, it sounds like you are using self-shielded FCAW which tends to be less smooth that gas shielded FCAW.
Since you are new to welding - heat input is determined by a combination of factors. Higher volts and amps, or a lower travel speed, (or both combined) will lead to a higher heat input. One of the troubles with low heat input is that the weld puddle freezes quickly and may not have a chance to smooth out. That causes all kinds of nooks and crannies that grip the slag. Not necessarily a "bad" weld, but one that is difficult to clean.
Now, don't go making drastic changes to your settings, that will lead to other problems. Instead try to make small changes and note the results. To start out, I would try slowing your travel speed a bit and maybe increasing 1 or 2 volts. Make sure you have enough wire feed speed to avoid burn-back to the contact tip. Keep in mind that the "perfect" settings for a flat or horizontal fillet weld on 1/4" steel will be different than what works best for a vertical groove on 1/2" steel. But with time and practice, you will learn what works best.
Have fun with it.
Chet Guilford
So if I was to use self shielded wire as well as
using 100% co2 it would be ok and likely produce an easier slag cleanup?
Regards,
Matt
No, there are 4 different basic type of MIG wires.
Here are links to explanations of 4 types from Lincoln, there are hundreds of different variations to choose from and many different manufactures:
Ultracore 71C (flux cored, uses CO2 sheilding gas)
http://www.mylincolnelectric.com/Catalog/consumabledatasheet.asp?p=21230
Metalsheild MC-6 (metal cored, uses CO2 / Argon gas mix)
http://www.mylincolnelectric.com/Catalog/consumabledatasheet.asp?p=9559
Innersheild NR-211-MP (flux cored / self sheilded / no gas)
http://www.mylincolnelectric.com/Catalog/consumabledatasheet.asp?p=5854
Super Arc L-50 (solid wire, uses CO2 / Argon mix)
http://www.mylincolnelectric.com/Catalog/consumabledatasheet.asp?p=12771
Search around on Lincoln's web site and you'll find a lot of useful info.
Tim
"So if I was to use self shielded wire as well as using 100% co2 it would be ok and likely produce an easier slag cleanup?"
No. Do not use shielding gas on flux cored wire unless it is specifically intended to be dual-shield. Similarly, don't use dual-shield wire without shielding gas. Read Tim's references...
Regards,
Not trying to put down Lincoln but you can be flux cored wire/gas shielded from other manufactures. ESAB has wire that is just as good as Lincoln. If you are on a tight budget and do not need all the certs for FEMA and what not, National Standard makes a wire just as good as ESAB and Lincoln for a lot less money a pound.
We switched from using Lincoln to Esab wires because of the price difference. I figure we're saving at least $9,000.00 a year. The only difference to the guys on the floor is that they need pliers to snip the Esab flux cored wire and with Lincoln they could bend and break it. For that kind of savings I'll buy two sets of pliers for everybody.
there seems to be something that is maybe getting overlooked.there is 2 kinds of fluxed wire,one which in canada is usually called dual sheild.this wire is sheilded with gas and does prouduce a slag.this wire works best when you drag the puddle,cleanup is a breeze.the other wire is normally called metalcore,this wire can be used without gas,but i rarley see it done.if you dont push the puddle forehand with this wire the spatter and glaze that is produced is a really hard to clean up.this can be avoided by pushing the puddle.theres an old saying,if theres slag you drag.maybe try the wire you were using and push the puddle at the perameters you were at before,metalcore is an excelent wire if its used right.
Just a FYI,
Flux core wire is a tubular wire and considered FCAW as the process, however Metal core is also a tubular wire, but is considered GMAW as the process. Similar wire as both being tubular, but some codes (like AWS D1.1) consider them to be two totally different processes and require seperate welding qualifications and procedures. They may look similar but not all codes see them that way.
John Wright
Scott,
We have had good results with the ESAB wire also.
John Wright
HERES WHAT I KNOW MY FRIEND. I USED ALOT OF SELF SHEIDING FLUX CORE. MAINLY LINCOLN NR 212 AND NR 211. FOR GENERAL PURPOSE FABRICATION THEY WORK GREAT. ESAB AND OTHERS HAVE GOOD WIRE,ALSO. AS MENTIONED ABOVE CLEANLINESS IS A BIG PART OF SLAGS ABILITY TO BE LIBERATED. A SKILLED WELDER THAT I HAVE WORKED WITH USES NOTHING BUT ESAB DUAL SHIELD WITH A ARGON / CO2 MIX. THE TWO OF US HAD THE OPURTUNITY TO WORK SIDE BY SIDE ON THE SAME PROJECT. HERES WHAT I LEARNED. IF YOUR WORKING IN THE FIELD FORGET ABOUT THE DUAL SHIELD. BETWEEN LUGGING CO2 BOTTLES AND THE WIND BLOWING AWAY YOUR SHIELD GAS IT DOESNT MAKE FOR A PLEASENT DAY. DUAL SHIELD IS EXPENSIVE. BETWEEN WIRE, GAS, AND EQUIPMENT(IF YOUR SET UP FOR FLUX CORE ONLY). IF YOUR IN THE SHOP ,HAVE THE CASH, AND WANT TO RUN FAST, DUAL SHIELD IS THE TICKET. IF YOU CAN DEAL WITH THE SMOKE AND/OR YOUR OUTDOORS, OR JUST NEED GOOD GENERAL PURPOSE WIRE, FLUX CORE WORKS FINE. ABOUT THE SLAG DIFFERENCES. I CAN GET JUST AS GOOD A PEEL OFF WITH NR212 AS HE COULD WITH DUAL SHIELD. IT JUST TAKES TIME,PRACTICE AND CLEANLINESS. RUN FORE HAND IF YOU WANT PENETRATION. RUN BACKHAND IF YOUR RUNNING THIN. PLAY WITH YOUR HEAT AND WIRE SPEED ON SCRAP. GET 'ER DIALED IN JUST RIGHT AND THAT SLAG WILL POP RIGHT OFF. MIGHT SEE A GOOD WELD TOO! HAVE FUN!
Blueranger, Please fix your caps lock button.
Thanks.
SORRY MAN, I AM HARD OF HEARING SO I YELL ALOT.
I have worked steel fab shops 25 years, my ears are shot, as are most of my co workers. We shout at one another just to be heard.
Using all caps is a different deal entirely.
When I see a post all caps, I'd as soon skip reading it and go on to the next.
Reason for this is that I find the body of the post extremely difficult to read.
"All caps" is not eyeball friendly, and I think most others will agree.
Thanks.
I may be loosing my hearing ,but thank God, I still have my sense of humor! I bought a new keyboard.