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- - By leon phelps (**) Date 03-03-2006 01:38
Hello,

A friend of mine has given me a couple of locomotives. They are GE 44 tonners. They have two D17000 diesel engines in them. They were last run about ten years ago. They were basically shut down and left on his railroad yard.

I know steel is sky high. These machines are supposed to be 44 tons each. I had a scrap metal guy tell me we could go 66- him and 33 me for the revenue from scrapping the whole things. He would arrange the whole thing then bring me the money when the deal is done. This deal sounds fair, but I had another thought.

I saw the D17000 engine was used for D9 Cat Dozers, Marine engines( tugs and container ships), and locomotives. I have seen diesel engine blocks go for big money, sometimes in excess of $10K.

I also know the traction motors were working. Due to the nature of this, finding buyers may be tough. It is tough to say if these are worth more in scrap than as parts.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Parent - - By lift mechanic (*) Date 03-03-2006 02:57
The traction motors, would they be Gulfco DC electric motors in approx the 1000 hp range? If so My company might be interested. Let me know. Mark
Parent - - By billvanderhoof (****) Date 03-03-2006 06:49
http://www.sdrm.org/roster/diesel/d-00608/index.html
picture and description here, it's a switcher, 2 190hp cat engines, GE traction motors.
Bill
Parent - By medicinehawk (**) Date 03-03-2006 09:26
That was very informative....I never thought about what was exactly powering a train and that article was cool. Thanks Bill.
Parent - By leon phelps (**) Date 03-30-2006 17:37
I need a some way to contact you about the motors if you want them.


my e-mail is leonladiesmanphelps2000@yahoo.com
Parent - By jwright650 (*****) Date 03-03-2006 12:12
Any thoughts of getting them fired up to see if the engines are mechanically fit enough to sell? Also someone might be interested if they can hear/see the engines run. Then you could scrap the rest of the locomotive.
just a thought,
John Wright
Parent - - By webbcity (***) Date 03-03-2006 17:45
brings back memories . D-9 cats were in production 1956 they made 5 versions about 1954 to test . 56 yr. was model 18a ser.# all had cable blade as hydraulic that could lift not developed at time . were 6 cylinder in-line engines . these were used to build interstate hwy. system . will try to dig out my cat books find out more. can you keep the locos.? where are they located ? some times after things are scraped you find out the real value (collectors ,etc.) might still have industrial-small mine . could be part orphans . some times free is not free . i was given a pipe plant once at prudoe bay north slope that had to be moved 47 below at time , burnt up about $50k got 1 tk. load scrap could have bought new for less . good luck willie
Parent - - By leon phelps (**) Date 03-03-2006 19:43
With the price of scrap metal, I am not sure how 88,000 lbs at $10/hundred for loose #1 and $28/hundred for prepared, I am not sure how this could be a loser. Two people have offered me $10k to walk away and let them do the whole thing. This has me thinking the engines must be worth some serious cash plus the traction motors.

I did get my info about the dozers from an antique cat site so it seems genuine.

I guess I will keep looking around for who would but these engines and motors.

Driving them out of the place is a bunch of legal trouble. I have already inquired about it.

Parent - By billvanderhoof (****) Date 03-04-2006 05:34
Not sure but if somebody wants to buy one complete it's probably a truckable load. Permits, escorts and all that but doable.
bill
Parent - - By mactar20 Date 06-01-2006 12:21
Can you give me the phone number for the guy that is scrapping out your locomotives? I spoke with Tom several weeks ago and never heard back from him.  Pricing has increased and I want to give him my new prices.

Thanks,
Ryan
Bay Metal
330-523-0087
ryan@baymetal.com
Parent - - By leon phelps (**) Date 06-06-2006 10:30
I was told by a couple of people that Baymetal is in bankruptcy. Look into it before dealing with them.
Parent - By mactar20 Date 06-06-2006 12:30
Not sure who your source is on this but it could not be further from the truth.  Bay Metal is no where near being in bankruptcy and I don't appreciate the spreading of false rumors.  No scrap metal company could possibly be in bankruptcy given the current state of the commoditities market.
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