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- - By JTMcC (***) Date 04-21-2006 02:44
I didn't want to tack this onto another thread so I'll ask this stand alone question here. I'm curious as I work quite a lot in the API 1104 world.

How many current or former CWI's that took the test on the API 1104 code, actually work regularly with that code? Everyone knows that it's the easier way out, but I'd like an informal poll. I'm not making a dig at anyone, just wondering.

How many of you took the API 1104 but really work daily with AWS or ASME (or other codes)?

Thanks,
JTMcC.
Parent - - By thirdeye (***) Date 04-21-2006 14:35
JTMcC,

I know the cost of an API 1104 is lower than any of the other choices. I think that navigation is easier in API 1104, and of course it has fewer pages, but the number of questions are the same for any of the Code choices. I've always wondered if the folks at AWS who compiled the questions maybe looked a little deeper into API than say D1.1 for questions?

Anyway, back to your question. I work with 6 or 8 company and several contract CWI's. Since the contract ones work with numerous Codes and Specifications, most will test on the Code they are most comfortable in working with. I'm not sure if AWS offers the D.15 (Railroad) examination anymore, but when I tested many claimed it was the easiest Code.

~thirdeye~

Parent - - By KWCORYELL Date 04-22-2006 04:16
Hi Thirdeye and others,

Just a heads up. The number of questions on the API 1104 is soon to be increased in a matter of weeks or days from 46 to 60 questions, which is more than total currently offered on the D1.1 exam. It has been long known that the 1104 exam (primarily due to the number of pages in 1104 vs. number of pages in D1.1) is easier to complete in the 2 hour time period allowed on the exam. The Certification Committee is quite aware of this disparity and has recently taken the first steps to fix this by making the 1104 exam more challenging. I have just taken the new 1104 exam which is soon to be used, and it is much more challenging than the previous one, incorporating information from both Apppendices A (Alternate Acceptance Criteria) and B (Inservice Repairs), which were not previously included. I encourage all to read Bob Wiswesser's article in the most recent issue of Inspection Trends. Bob is Chairman of the Certification Committee, I know and work with him on various AWS programs, and he tells it like it is. The winds are changing and new Code options (primarily ASME Codes) are soon to be offered. The D1.5 (Bridge Code), and D15.1 (Railcars)) have always been available, though D1.1 and 1104 have been most popular. The AWS instructors such as myself are in the process of adjusting our training classes and materials to accommodate the more challenging API 1104 exam as well as the new exams for ASME B31.1, B31.3, and ASME VIII, all of which contain questions on ASME IX. Stay tuned into the changes. I think they are significant.
Parent - By webbcity (***) Date 04-23-2006 14:26
ken , like to see your comments on these forums . with your back ground it has special meaning . just recieved this week inspection trends . nice article , also read article on page 8 and see your name on page 9 . i signed up for r.i. seminar at anchorage in march but it was canceled . thought you or david d. might be up . hope to meet you in my travels . thanks for the help you give on these forums . willie
Parent - - By mksqc (**) Date 04-21-2006 19:58
I work with the D11 so I tested with D11. i dont know if there is a easy way out as far as what test you take.
Parent - By hogan (****) Date 04-21-2006 20:07
fyi , in the northwest we can't perform structural inspection with a 1104 cwi, only d1.1
Parent - - By jwright650 (*****) Date 04-21-2006 20:15
Same here....tested D1.1...work with D1.1
John Wright
Parent - - By gyadon (**) Date 04-21-2006 22:00
Tested with D1.1 Work with D1.1 and ASME.
Gary
Parent - By BamaDave (**) Date 04-22-2006 14:04
I took it with 1104 and back then 95% of the folks were taking it with 1104. Back in the 80’s it didn’t matter which code you used. Today ASME is one of the primary codes that I reference.
Parent - - By webbcity (***) Date 04-23-2006 13:47
hi john , i'm current cwi till 2009, just renewed . tested on api 1104 2003 . also work with , d1.1 , d1.5 , asme . welded qualification test on 12-4-92 6-g api 1104 for a job our family was doing up on the arctic coast . i'm going to snail mail you a magazine and some old pipeline pictures 1950s from down your way might be of interest . will try to stay in touch . willie
Parent - By jwright650 (*****) Date 04-23-2006 14:50
Willie,
Look forward to seeing those pics:)
John Wright
Parent - By jwright650 (*****) Date 07-05-2006 11:51
Hi Willie,
I received that package that you sent. Lots of neat stuff right there, I appreciate the thoughts and I hope we can even up sometime on all the postage that you've spent sending all that information/pics. Looks like you have some neat equipment and lots invested over the years to collect all of that.
Thanks again for thinking of me and sending all of the pictures and such.
Parent - By QAQC Date 07-05-2006 04:25
sir,can u send some useful previous model questions of aws/cwi examination.
Parent - - By jubail (*) Date 09-05-2006 01:07
Tested with 1104, Work with D1.1 and ASME
SH Lee from Korea
Parent - - By kipman (***) Date 09-05-2006 17:49
Isanghoonsi,
How are you my friend?

For the record, I tested to 1104.  Currently I work with numerous API standards (including 1104), D1.1, numerous ASME standards, ABS, DNV, etc. etc.
Kip Mankenberg
Parent - - By Jim Hughes (***) Date 09-07-2006 16:10
As of June 2006 the API 1104 has been changed to 60 questions to be answered in a two hour time period. Must use 20th edition, and more questions are being asked on Appendix A&B.

Thanks
Jim Hughes
QA/QC Manager
Parent - By fluxcore (*) Date 09-11-2006 00:58
What the questions?
Parent - - By aamir Date 02-20-2007 10:42
Mr.Jim ,i need API 1104 20th adition kindly give me favor how can i get.......?
Parent - By RANDER (***) Date 02-20-2007 14:47
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