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- - By samh (**) Date 08-01-2008 23:08
How do you guys miter 90's on tie ins and what is the best way to find your correct angle. I had to do one the other day and it took me forever but i finally got it. Just seeing if there is a quick way to find your angle.  
Parent - By zach benefield (*) Date 08-02-2008 00:46
i use a string line and a speed square: just have our helper and a labor hand hold each end of your string a u stand were your fiting is going to be

mitering a 90 the way that i do it (may not be right but works for me) measure the lenght of the back of the 90 and the inside, divid both by 90, then take that measurement and multiply it by the desired angle, then mark your 90 then take your string and hold it tightly from point to point and have your helper mark it

for what its worth i will tie my fiting in first and leave one joint off and tie it in last by doing that u can get a little flex out of the pipe (depending on the size)

hope that helps
zach
Parent - - By rockin d (**) Date 08-02-2008 00:46
you can get 2 squares  @ each end of 90 degree- set speed sq.-squared off where both squares meet & mark your angle. or measure back & throat , lets say you need a 56 deg. on a 12" 90 measure back is 39 multiply by 56 = 2184 divide by 90 = 24.2666 measure back again marking & 24 3/16 , do the same w/ throat -wrap around w/ steele tape whala you got a miter. easier way theres a black book w/ all the degrees & measurments  + take-offs just can't recall which one it is.hope that helps..
Parent - - By samh (**) Date 08-02-2008 00:53
Thanks for the replies i will try these out next time.
Parent - By rockin d (**) Date 08-02-2008 00:57
i've been doing tie-ins for the past 2 weeks that 12" i know it by heart  lol
Parent - By swsweld (****) Date 08-03-2008 14:20
This book has the dimensions to cut an odd angle from a long radius 90 degree elbow. From 5 degrees to 70 degrees. From 3/4" to 24" pipe size.

Just layout the elbow in four equal parts (top, bottom and sides) and use the dimensions provided in the book. I use a flexible 3' tape to pull the dimension on the arc of the throat and back outside and sides of the 90 and connect the marks with an old band saw blade or wrap around or shipping banding material. 

I've got lots of pipefitting books but I use this one the most.

Pipe Trades Pocket Manual
Thomas W. Frankland
262 pages
$19.95

This site has all the books.
http://pipefitter.com/dolphincart/category.php?cat=Cat0001
Parent - - By 52lincoln (***) Date 08-02-2008 01:23
it is called a graves book(blue book)
Parent - - By rockin d (**) Date 08-02-2008 01:29
nope,  ain't it,, black i have blue & it does'nt give exact back & throat meas.. & take-offs
Parent - By rockin d (**) Date 08-02-2008 01:37 Edited 08-02-2008 01:55
copyright 1958 S.D. Bowman revised 1967 Modern Methods Of Pipe Fabrication ($2.00) back then..
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