Hello OBEWAN and others, it is very difficult to try to compare private training facilities to CC's, Tech's, Voc's, etc., you can argue that the training is much more intense and the instructor to student ratio could be much better with a private than the other choices. Cost is not necessarily an indicator of value, you can have an inexpensive program, yet it may also have little out the door value in the end. On the other hand you may have an inexpensive program that turns out to be the "deal of the century" so to speak.
The real indicator of value probably lies in the successes of the individuals who make the choice to opt for these private training options. Consider the Lincoln School of Welding, or Hobarts School of Welding, neither one of these are inexpensive, yet I believe almost any of the folks who have gone through their programs have probably been very satisfied in the long haul with their choice to use them. I am with the majority of you when I look at the prices for some of this training and it's expense. At the same time, if I was a graduate of this training and it truly prepared me properly for entrance into and working out in the welding trade I could probably say that I got my monies worth. Short-term training is what is needed for some folks, intense training is also a positive for many, the "right" private school could be just the ticket for a certain population of individuals who are out there and thus justify the increased cost. In this case, with this individual's school, if he in fact can provide the necessary skills and knowledge, post training support, and is recognized by employers and others as having a class operation, his school may very well be worth the prices he is charging. I certainly can't make that call based upon the information that has been presented here. Just a few thoughts for everyone out there. Best regards, Allan
Hello Allan,
As always your responses make alot of sense. I was only looking at the High tuition cost to Hrs of training ratio at this school. I can't speak on, nor did I, the quality of training provided at this school. I must remember though, that when I first communicated with You, I was a very disgruntled welding student. I do however have great news concerning my school. After all the meetings and talks with Admin, I can say that things have really shaped up. The entire welding lab got a complete renovation. All new machines, new welding booths, new shears and presses, and we have good steel to work with now. The spark is back in the eye of my instructor and he has renewed enthusiasm for his profession. This will have a direct affect on the students, or at least on this one.
As for the cost of my education being far less than what is advertised for the school in this thread, that's all I can really expound upon. I have no relevant information to draw a conclusion as to the worth of this school's instruction.
Respectfully, Jeffrey
Hello Jeffrey, thank you for the response. I know that I can also be somewhat biased as to the cost of schooling when comparing one program to another or a private to a public or even union trade school. My main point was to stress that all of these different types of offerings are only as good as those who adminster and oversee them. The satisfaction and success of these different types of training venues is dependent as much on the attitude of the students as those who are doing the instruction. Although cost is important to just about everyone of us, the outcomes and rewards of our education and training generally overshadow these differences when you look at the big picture. Everyone has a different situation and those situations will mesh with certain types of training better than others. Ideally, the majority of us hope to be luck enough to have made the right choice and not had one of the "bad" or "costly" experiences.
I am glad to hear of the changes that have occured at "your" school, I put it that way partly because this where you have received a lot of your training and also because of the efforts that you put forth when you were displeased with what was going on there. You took the time and put forth the effort and through your perseverence positive changes have come about. You can certainly be proud to have been a part of those changes and the renewed interest of the instructor. It's good to hear from you, hope all is well and progressing positively. Best regards, Allan
I'm sure he got his attitude in order when his job was on the line but thats good you were able to get all that worked out
I don't want to discredit this school, their knowledge, or connections, but 3 grand for a basic smaw welding course semms like quite alot of cash. Consider that at my local comunity college I was able to recieve ,what I would consider, top notch guidance from professionals in the field, lifetime job placement, supplied materials: rod,gas,torches no helmets or gloves, for a grand total of approx. -5 dollars. thats right. Adding up tuition for 4 semesters= approx.400$, financial aid 600$, supplies 195$, I dont have reciepts, but you get the idea. Yes I do consider myself lucky for this being availible and I do realize that this type of schooling is not availible in all areas. I would just like to point out that there are other options. I once asked my teacher why they dont have welding courses at the university level, his repliy was "because they're stupid" haha, but I think he's right.
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