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- - By vagabond (***) Date 10-17-2008 02:12 Edited 10-17-2008 15:25
This is pretty radical. . . . even for me so don't shoot the messenger but it addresses Mr. Obamas bloodlines once again.  If I was going to vote for him (which I'm not) I would do my homework and make sure if he is arabic or not I think. . . .

               Subject: Fwd: Dr. Jack Wheeler
               Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 19:01:06 -0600

               DR. JACK WHEELER is a brilliant man who was the author of Reagan's
strategy to break the back of the Soviet Union with the star wars
race and expose their inner weakness.  For years he wrote a weekly
intelligence update that was extremely interesting and well
structured and informed.  He consults(ed) with several mega
corporations on global trends and the future,  etc.  I think he is
in semi-retirement now.  He is a  true patriot with a no-nonsense
approach to everything.  He is also a somewhat well known mountain
climber and adventurer.

               Written by Dr. Jack Wheeler
                     The O-man, Barack Hussein Obama, is an eloquently tailored
empty suit.  No resume, no accomplishments, no experience, no
original ideas, no understanding of how the economy works, no
understanding of how the world works, nothing but abstract
empty rhetoric devoid of real substance.
               He has no real identity. He is half-white, which he rejects. The
rest of him is mostly Arab, which he hides but is disclosed by his
non-African Arabic surname and his Arabic first and middle names as
a way to triply proclaim his Arabic parentage to people in Kenya.
Only a small part of him is African Black from his Luo grandmother,
which he pretends he is Exclusively.

               What he isn't, not a genetic drop of, is 'African-American,' the
descendant of enslaved Africans brought to Americachained in slave
ships. He hasn't a single ancestor who was a slave.
               Instead, his Arab ancestors were slave owners.  Slave-trading was
the main Arab business in East Africa for centuries until the
British ended it.  Let that sink in: Obama is not the descendant of
slaves, he is the descendant of slave owners.  Thus he makes the
perfect Liberal Messiah.
               It's something Hillary doesn't understand - how some complete
neophyte came out of the blue and stole the Dem nomination from
her.  Obamamania is beyond politics and reason.  It is a true
religious cult, whose adherents reject Christianity yet still
believe in Original Sin, transferring it from the evil of being
human to the evil of being white. Thus Obama has become the white
liberals' Christ, offering absolution from the Sin of Being White.
There is no reason or logic behind it, no faults or flaws of his
can diminish it, no arguments Hillary could make of any kind can be
effective against it.  The absurdity of Hypocrisy Clothed In Human
Flesh being their Savior is all the more cause for liberals to
worship him: Credo quia absurdum, I believe it because        it is
absurd. Thank heavens that the voting majority of Americans remain
Christian and are in no desperate need of a phony savior. His
candidacy is ridiculous and should not be taken seriously by any
thinking American.
               Pass this on to every thinking American you  know!
Parent - By raftergwelding (*****) Date 10-17-2008 05:43
very well put
Parent - - By NEQA (**) Date 10-17-2008 11:47
Wheeler is a right-wing (even to the right of Pat Buchanan) racist who really has nothing to say - much like McBush.

Folks care about the fact we are fighting two wars, foreclosures are at a record high, umemployment is heading to 7%, we are losing trillions of dollars of worth to China - not some racist fool and the ignorant and stupid people who spout racial hatred and the jackasses who follow.

On November 4 the voters of America will voice their opinion of trash like this.
Parent - By SMTatham (**) Date 10-17-2008 13:37
NEQA............................are you on the same continent as the rest of us?   Does telling the FACTS about Obama's heritage make one a racist???  Oh yeh.................you libs are tolerant..........what a crock. 
Parent - By 522029 (***) Date 10-18-2008 21:54
The only fools I see are on your side. Heck, there isn't even anyone named McBush running.

Griff
Parent - - By hogan (****) Date 10-17-2008 13:48
I'm not that familiar with this guy. Sounds f_ing crazy! Sounds like the ramblings of someone who just huffed paint! (the gold kind)
Parent - - By vagabond (***) Date 10-17-2008 14:20
I have to agree he's pretty radical, however I have yet to find ANY argument that is coming out against the fact that Yobama is of arabic descent.  Even if he is not he is to much of a socialist for me, I don't dislike him because he is black or whatever he is, I dislike him because he is a socialist.  I didn't dislike Martin L. King because he was black,  I disliked him because he was a communist and his teachings were based on communist principles.  With the yuppy crowd I suppose this makes me a racist,  so what.  Have you ever asked yourself how many people are voting for Yobama just because he's black???   HMMM now lets ponder that one for a while shall we??  I for one will be glad when the election is over.  It is in reality not much of a choice,  I would rather have Palin for President at this point and I'm being very serious about that.  However I would rather vote for an American hero like Mr. McCain and have him do a bad job than put an admitted muslim, socialist with very little political experience in office as President of this country at a time like this in our history.  By the way Hogan how did you know the gold kind works the best?????  You can tell us were all friends here. . . . .  LOLOLOL
Parent - - By hogan (****) Date 10-17-2008 14:34
Have you ever asked yourself how many people are voting for Yobama just because he's black???

What? I don't get that. could you explain?
Parent - - By vagabond (***) Date 10-17-2008 14:48
Just playing devil's advocate FWIW.  The liberal viewpoint is so concerned with so called "equality" that I'm fairly certain this enters into some peoples thinking when they are considering who to vote for.  Depending on the person I'm sure there are people who are giving him points because of the fact he is a black person.  I'm not saying it's wrong I'm just looking at the other side of the coin.  I personally find the whole liberal idea of wealth distribution an insult to the average Americans intelligence.  You ever ask yourself why the rich democrat's aren't concerned with distributing THEIR wealth amongst the poor, unwashed masses???  If they want bums to have money and social programs why don't they pay for it.  I for one am tired of being penalized because I make six figures a year.  Anybody could have chosen the career path I did and done what I've done.  I was brought up in a trailer in remote Alaska and no one ever gave me anything.  I've worked at least full time since before I was old enough to legally do so.  The hand-out programs in this country are out of control,  and they are mostly a result of democrats.  But I digress,  I do think a percentage of people feel as though we just need to bend over backwards to make things easy for blacks, american indians etc. because of how their ancestors were treated and people in that frame of mind are more likely to vote for Yobama because he is black.
Parent - - By hogan (****) Date 10-17-2008 15:18
I am bothered by that line of thinking. Do you think Romans feel this for making slaves of parts of Africa, Asia and most of Europe?
Parent - By vagabond (***) Date 10-17-2008 15:38
It's just one of those things that I find interesting for lack of a better word.  The idea that people are "owed" something simply because of their heritage.  If this is true then why are we not doing more for the Jewish community in this country??  When it comes to suffering they have surely earned as much as anyone else.  Why don't we step in and make Germany make monetary restitution for the holocaust??  The reason I use this example is depending on your source BOTH the holocaust and slavery have been grossly exaggerated in certain history sources.  Yes they did happen,  and yes it was horrible, inhumane treatment in both cases.  However, there were many incidents of slaves who stayed with their "owners" after being freed.  There are also documented cases of people giving the slaves property etc. to work for themselves.  One of these plantation owners happens to be Thomas Jefferson for what it's worth.  By all accounts he always treated all people fairly and named 3 blacks who worked on his plantation in his will.  It just becomes reverse prejudice at some point,  I've been in a situation at work with an individual who should have been let go but never was because of fear of a "race" prejudice coming up if he was terminated.  In the end when I left for other reasons that individual had already cost the company 2 good people because they refused to address the issue of the bad one due to the fact he was a minority.
Parent - - By octavio morales (*) Date 10-17-2008 15:47
you know i worked in a warehouse about 2 months ago. where the majority of the employs were black, and i would say there was about 15 of them that were voting for Obama just because he was black. now i'm Hispanic but that's doesn't mean that if George Lopez runs for prez i will vote for him.
Parent - By vagabond (***) Date 10-17-2008 15:55
FWIW I'll take him over Obama. . . But that is interesting.  I might vote for Cheech Marin if he runs.
Parent - - By kipman (***) Date 10-17-2008 16:07
You know, this guy Wheeler is definitely far to the right.  However, I did some research on my own and from what I could find out he is at least accurate on Obama's heritage, i.e. 50% white, 25% Arabic, 25% black with his formative years spent primarily in a Muslim environment.
Now I wonder how well it would go over if a candidate were 50% black, 25% Arabic and 25% white, with his formative years in a primarily Muslim environment, and went around calling himself a white Christian.
Mankenberg
Parent - - By DaveBoyer (*****) Date 10-18-2008 04:51
The article I read claimed Obama was 50% white 43.75% Aribic and 6.25% African Black. Who knows?
Parent - - By BryonLewis (****) Date 10-18-2008 05:08
Barack was born in 1961 in Hawai'i.  His dad bailed on the family in 1963.  In 1967 Obama's mama got remarried and moved to Indonesia.  In 1972 Barack moved back to Honolulu to live with his mother's parents.  His pops only saw Barack one time after he bailed on the family.

Although there is possibly a variety of races that is in his makeup.  The environment that he grew up in was white.  He's slightly "blacker" than Tiger Woods.
Who gives a sh__?  You turn off the lights, we are all black.
Parent - By raftergwelding (*****) Date 10-18-2008 05:27
not mad at ya or arguing with you Bryon but my dad died when i  was 16 does that mean i would be a good candidate for president can you imagine the life of the common rig welder if i were lmao maybe i'll run for it in 4 years lol the guy has little to no political experience and he wants to run the U S i dot see how to me the CIC should have spent some time in the service to even be concidered for the position
Parent - - By DaveBoyer (*****) Date 10-18-2008 04:45 Edited 10-18-2008 04:52
    The Howard Stern radio show played a tape of a guy who went to Harlem and asked random blacks who they were voting for, and they were supporting Obama. The guy then atributed McCains views to these people telling them they were Obamas, and the people supported these views [staying in Iraq, pro life, anti steym cell reasearch, they thougt Obama made a good choice in choosing Sara Palin for VP].

    These people had NO IDEA what either candidate is supporting.
Parent - By kipman (***) Date 10-18-2008 15:25
Hah.  I like it.  Sounds like Jay Leno's "Jaywalking" segment.
Mankenberg
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