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- - By ritz (*) Date 12-10-2008 03:45
Hello to everybody once again, I just want to seek advices from welding expert regarding the best filler, if ever we are going to joint SS base metal of material grade 321 to 304/304 L OR 321 to 316Ti what will be the recommended best filler for those combination materials mentioned considering operating temperature of 90 degrees celsius at petrochemical Plant (ASME B 31.3)?  If We're going to use E309L do you think it will be one of the suitable filler material for those materials?
 
I will highly appreciate any response.

Thanks you in advance, I remain.

Ritz
Parent - By Tommyjoking (****) Date 12-10-2008 15:47
uh?

wow what a wide grade of materials to be using....
Parent - By js55 (*****) Date 12-10-2008 16:20
321 is a Ti stabilized SS, and that of course is the reason for Ti in 316. Normally you would weld 321 with 347, but in a dissimilar with 304 SS 309 is fine, and with a diss with 316 I would say 309 is fine as well, though with the 321/316Ti combo you have two stabilized alloys whereas 309L is not stabilized, though it does have low carbon. 309 would certainly be less crack sensitive than 347.
If the stabiliztion is an issue (though your temp is well below any service sensitization range-and since the weldments will most likely be as welded) on the 321/316Ti combo run 316Ti filler. Again, it will be less crack sensitive than 347.
Its an engineering and availability issue.
Parent - - By Fredspoppy (**) Date 12-10-2008 18:42
In general, the choice of 309L for joining two different types of stainless (in the 3XX family) would not be my first choice.  309L is a good choice for welding of 3XX series stainless to carbon or low alloy steels, but the overalloying, provided by 309L, is wasted when both base materials are in the 3XX family (unless one would be 309 or 310).  If you match the higher of the two 3XX base materials, your results should be satisfactory.  An example, 304 to 304 would normally be welded with 308(L).  304 to 316 would normally be welded with 316(L).  In all cases, the end use (corrosive environment, temperature, etc.) of the base metal combination needs to be understood when selecting the appropriate filler.  309(L) normally can be used, but may not be the best choice.
Parent - - By ritz (*) Date 12-11-2008 04:28
Good day!!

First and foremost I would like to say thank you for those who responded to my query to the best of your knowledge and now I have an idea what filler material we are going to use in economical and compatibilty point of view.

God bless!!

Ritz
Parent - By 803056 (*****) Date 12-12-2008 04:14
I don't have a copy of D1.6 with me, but I believe it contains a table with recommendations for many different combinations of stainless alloys.

Best regards - Al
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