Cactus, Be careful pyplynr/tigman gets easily upset, last time I said something to him he went on a week long diatribe about being a "yank", not knowing how to weld, and aquising me of driving a beater and living in a slum in New Jersey. Last I heard he was welding on the space shuttle for NASA, probably with sourdough. Hope your getting "rested up" before your next round at BRADY. PS. GO STEELERS AND PENS