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- - By Chevy_welder (*) Date 02-19-2009 01:54
Hi everybody im trying to put my welding bed together im almost with it i just need to paint it i should have pics for this weekend. Anyways i wanted to know where do you keep you rods in if the box its been open? what do you do to keep them from getting humids? i was thing would the weather strip keep it away? any ideas would help
Parent - By pypLynr (***) Date 02-19-2009 02:03
I never had good luck with my rods just in the open box . I use those rod tubes .
Parent - - By Cactusthewelder (*****) Date 02-19-2009 03:20
Waterproof Ammo boxes work pretty well
Parent - By raftergwelding (*****) Date 02-19-2009 05:33
ammo boxes are they way to go that or the tubes but you need to many of them i have 14 and still need more i'm gonna put my other ammo box on the truck
Parent - - By lonestarwelder7 (**) Date 02-19-2009 03:42
I keep mine in ammo boxes, (22 millimeter I think?) I've got three of them. and i have a spot on my truck to put one ammo box, if I need more I just get another box and throw them on the back of the truck and roll. They are water proof. The only prob is with the new boxes of rods...they are to long. I just cut three (tin boxes) shorter with tin snips and move the new rods to those boxes.

hope this helps!
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Parent - - By raftergwelding (*****) Date 02-19-2009 05:34
if you cut the box on the dotted line it fits perfect
Parent - - By Chevy_welder (*) Date 02-19-2009 11:58
thanks you have been really helpful guys! i apreciate everybodys ideas and i would mine getting mine more from any body else
Parent - By Jake331 (**) Date 02-20-2009 03:30
a guy I used to work with made some out of some 6" pvc.... glue a cap on one end and threaded on the other..... seemed to work good and held alot of rods
Parent - - By TimGary (****) Date 02-20-2009 13:40 Edited 02-20-2009 13:51
The suggestions the guys made about using ammo boxes and such are great for 60KSI series rods, but keep in mind that low hydrogen rods, such as 7018, must be stored in an oven. Once the original container has been opened, they may only be exposed outside of an oven for 4 hours, otherwise, they have to be re-baked at high temps to ensure complete removal of any moisture absorbed into the flux.
Research your electrode brands storage requirements for further info.

Tim

http://www.lincolnelectric.com/knowledge/articles/content/storing.asp

http://www.airgas.com/browse/product_list.aspx?catID=409
Parent - - By Chevy_welder (*) Date 02-21-2009 16:45
so you'll think that i should go with rod tubes? i think thats the best way to go... what about LH rods in rod tubes would that work at longest i dont leave them out more 4 hours outside ?
Parent - By Milton Gravitt (***) Date 02-21-2009 22:33
  Check out RodOvens.com they have different size rod boxes.
                               MG
Parent - - By TimGary (****) Date 02-22-2009 16:04
LH rods have to be stored in an oven, after the hermetically sealed original container has been opened.
I suggest that you purchase one of the smaller ovens for your truck.
Also, if you purchase your rods in a smaller 5 or 10 pound box, rather than a 50 pound can, you can store the rods in unopened hermetically sealed containers until you need them.
The reason why this is crucial is to prevent under bead cracking in the heat affected zone. Underbead cracking is caused by hydrogen, derived from moisture in the rod flux, absorbing into the base metal. This has a tendency to cause cracks in the HAZ that are not immediately apparent as they are generally underneath the bead where you can't see them, or detect them with PT, MT or RT testing. Usually, there are only two ways to detect them, one is by UT, the other is by later on, after you have long left the job, the weldment falls apart as the underbead cracks have propagated or grown.
Unfortunately, many contractors generally ignore this rule, either due to ignorance or because they just don't give a damn.
As a CWI, or someone who knows the hazard potential of this and other defective welding practices, it makes me nervous when I go into a welded structure or building and see welded moment connections, especially when weld defects can be easily seen. It makes me wonder if this is the day that these weldments are going to fail. It has a tendency to make a person paranoid.
So, the point is, please rise above the numerous jerks out there that just don't give a damn. Do things the right way, store your rods as they're supposed to be.

Tim
Parent - By Cumminsguy71 (*****) Date 02-22-2009 17:30
that was good reading from lincoln, thanks Tim
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