I personaly have never heard this. If it is ANSI approved it should pass any requirements for OSHA welding eye protection requirements. The exceptions to this might be the need for hard hat protection, or company safety policy. However you stated that the issue was based off of an OSHA requirement. In a polite way, I would request the supporting documentation to this claim.
Now, let me elaborate a little on the use of pancake hoods. I know they are great, but most of the time I see them used they are a bigger eye protection hazzard than other styles.
WAIT!!!!! Before all you pipeliners crucify me...:-) Here is the reason, and I am sure there are at least a few times, and mostly everytime, everyone using these hoods have done this.
A pancake will not allow the use of safety glasses underneath the face peice. This is not a problem, but when you are done welding, eveybody I have ever seen will prop that pancake on top of their head while the helper preps the joint. The safety glasses that are required at this point are almost always on the dash of the truck (for those that keep their hood inside the cab) or in the tray of the toolbax used to store the hood. Now some will turn their head/back to the work, but 9 times out of 10, the welder is exposed to the shrapnel of a large wire wheel and grinding wheel. Even scarier, sometimes the welder is the helper, and to watch them run that equipment with no safety glasses and the pancake propped up is scary.
These are great hoods, just remember the extra step to protect yourself. Keep an old scratched pair that can be set anywhere. You do not even need to see perfectly out of them, just cover the eyeballs. My Daddy taught me long ago that I have 4 important balls. LOL
jrw159
you can sand down the sides & make safety glasses fit
Very nice, I have not seen this done before. :-)
everybody i work with that uses one, myself included has a auto darkening lense in it so you never have to lift it up to grind or buff
i find it safer than my fibremetal pipeliner hood because i hardly ever wear safety glasses under my hood
a pancake w/ auto darkening lense doubbles as a face shield
just my 2 cents
tomwatersonline.com makes some glasses that will fit under a pancake
Tom Waters out of Louisiana makes glasses that fit under a pancake hood. www.tomwatersonline.com
Pat I was thinking of getting an auto lens 2x4 size, what brand is good? Thanks!!
the one i have is a ArcOne singles they come in shades 10 and 12 the color isnt that great but decent and there solar powered and water proof
the shade ten is 92.00 and the shade 12 is 130.00 @ airgas you could probably shop around and find them cheaper
thats just what they are here localy
How many sensors does that Arc One have? I have an old one, #10 with 2 sensors, it came in a Hobart "Weld It" hood from the farm store, about $75 for the whole thing on sale, 9-10 years ago. It still works.
it has 2 sensors as well
prolly the same lense
Patg,
I agree. I have just not seen many that use the auto lenses in combination with that pancakes. IMHO that is thre route to go.
jrw159
I use an auto view in my Sarge,s pancake but you do need to file away the wood around the sensor or at certain angles it won't activate. I went for awhile with a glass lens but the putting glasses back on ever time I had to do anything else got old fast.
just be glad i dont work under you guess i'm getting old but dark safety glasses make my lens to dark these days and i run a 10 so i just dont wear them i have used some of the indoor outdoor glasses and they are nice under the hoo but not so good for sunlight i try to remember to put them on but usually in a hurry
I agree there Shad. I've caught myself flipin down my old hood with a #12 and had my tinted shades on....Yikes!!
All my hoods have been cheap nod your head things. So I've grown used to having several pairs of safety glasses handy, usually staged in strategic locations....hopefully not under anyones feet. I could see how you could easily cut corners but having been to the eye ball dock 9 times for metal and rust rings in my eyes(with safety glasses on) I don't really want to tempt fate without them. Arc flash don't have nothing on the piece of grinding metal in your eye....not to mention staring into the bright light watching the eye doc coming at ya with the micro drill, don't close your eye, don't close your eye.....oh...dont move your eye!!
i've been there a few times myself that pain killer eye drop he gives out is awesome
arc one singles are made in a shade 11 or I should say they was made 2 years ago when I ordered mine. It is allright but not good for alot of the tube welding I do. Still one day I'm going to get a pancake to see what all the fuss is about. Till then pipeliner all the way.
By patg 
Date 02-24-2009 02:34
Edited 02-24-2009 02:36
wrong answer buddy they are made in shade 9 through 12
