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- - By BryonLewis (****) Date 06-02-2009 18:27
I hope to hell they are not going to make the Humvee for the military.  I don't know if that's part of the deal but let's hope not.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_automakers
Parent - - By OBEWAN (***) Date 06-02-2009 18:35
Somehow I am not suprised.  Lately it seems the Chinese have been the only people with any money.

They already own about 20% of our national debt.  Why not Hummer too?  I would rather see the money remain in the U.S., but at least the jobs will stay here.  It will probably not be any different than the Japaneze companies that build some cars over here.
Parent - By js55 (*****) Date 06-02-2009 19:25
The Obama administration has been talking with China (never mind Geitner was laughed at for extolling the virtues of the Chinese economy)to continue to invest in the US. They are worried that if the Chinese get nervous and start pulling their money out it would be an economic catastrophe. And they're right.
But one has to ask, if they believe that someone else can make a profit of the Hummer why not Government Motors? Is this possibly one of those political flies in the corporate ointment we have all been worried about? The Hummer is after all one of them Global Warming monster SUV's that Big Al Bore and Ariana Huffington have been yapping about for so long as they jet about the country. But then Obama did say that the government would NOT be making any business decisions. Well, except for the most fundamental ones. His words, not mine. Wonder what that means.
Parent - - By BryonLewis (****) Date 06-02-2009 20:04 Edited 06-02-2009 20:13
Here is the beginning of the end of America.  The eternal quest for capital drove us to where we are as a nation.  And this is where it all started, with a simple handshake.  Thanks alot Dick!  Mao was a fuc*ing genius.  It proves that Socialism with a touch of Capitalism works well.  At least better than one or the other.  But what do I know.
Parent - - By CWI555 (*****) Date 06-02-2009 20:20 Edited 06-02-2009 20:23
Bryon,

It began with the abolition of the silver and gold standards. When the government figured out it could just print more money without having to worry about backing it up, that was the beginning of the end. Congress started that crap in 1933.

Nixon did in fact have a hand in the end, but the chinese had nothing to do with it. Nixon was the guy who put the final nail in the coffin. The only president we ever had that saw the light of day and the value of the gold and silver standards was Kennedy. History tells you what he got for that belief. (call me what you will, but with trillions upon trillions at stake for that belief, I find it hard to believe that wasn't the reason he was killed. People have been killed for 5 dollars, much less trillions)
Parent - By darren (***) Date 06-03-2009 00:11 Edited 06-03-2009 00:30
http://www.bis.org/

http://www.bilderberg.org/bis.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_for_International_Settlements

these links are to the bank for international settlements. we all know that most politicians are puppets. these are the guys who have their hand up the ass of the guys with their hands up the ass of the guys with their hands up the ass of almost every the world leader.
which begs the question, does anyone/thing have their hand up these guys asses as their puppet master or is this the last puppeteer.

President Andrew Jackson to the international bankers: "You are a den of vipers and thieves. I intend to rout you out, and by the eternal God, I will rout you out."

i agree kennedy was not killed by a rogue sniper, there was way more at play, even more than has been reported by the "left wing conspiracy nut job liberal socialist commies" as a epithet collection that those that are duped use to alienate the informed.

“Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” hermann goering

“Education is dangerous - Every educated person is a future enemy” hermann goering

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” joeseph goebbels

“The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly - it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over” joeseph goebbels    (any one heard of terrorism and the new world order lately?)

“Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play.” joeseph goebbels   (evelyn rothschild owns rueters)
Parent - By darren (***) Date 06-03-2009 00:39
i think the beginning of the end of america was when a central banking system was brought in by abraham lincoln, the rest has just been the steps to complete it.
Parent - - By js55 (*****) Date 06-03-2009 11:52
"It proves that Socialism with a touch of Capitalism works well.  But what do I know."

After such a statement is it safe to assume you intended your question to be rhetorical?  :)
Parent - - By BryonLewis (****) Date 06-03-2009 14:28
Its just my approach to humility.  Its an attempt to say hey, "what do we know about any of this shi*."  We get on here to bit*ch and complain about, Bush, Obama, GM, Al-Qaeda, the 1st Amendent, 2nd Amendment, Capitalism, Communism and why KU basketball will be so good this year, (I haven't started that one yet but its coming).

If any of us here had a real clue about anything political or economic we would be in DC or at least a Freemason. :-)

But again what do I know, I just woke up?  :-)
Parent - - By js55 (*****) Date 06-03-2009 16:36
"If any of us here had a real clue about anything political or economic we would be.............."

Perhaps the only one. :)
Parent - By BryonLewis (****) Date 06-03-2009 18:07
True. 
Parent - - By FixaLinc (****) Date 06-02-2009 21:06
I knew it was coming a chinese fire sale !  GM is now Government Motors and Chrysler will soon be China Motors or Communist Motors doubt Cuba has the money to buy it unless they borrow from China.  If Owannabee and his cronnies sold the military humvee to commies with no new secret replacement he is the one has put the final nail in us all !
Parent - By tigrooter (**) Date 06-03-2009 03:50
GM only sold the hummer brand the h2, h3 and h3t truck made here in shreveport. The military version is not made buy the hummer division of GM. The chinese company only agreed to build the hummer line for one year in shreveport. So we all know where it will be made after that. MADE IN CHINA  If only made in china was the old made in japan it would not be so bad. I think it's the unions that killed the car makers my sister in law works there she used to joke about how easy her job is and how good she has it. Been telling her for a long time that if the unions keep at it they would start making them out of the country I think she is sees the light now. Just think about it I think she makes about 38 bucks a hour if they make them in china or mexico and pay 38 bucks a day they will still sell the cars for the same price and make a killing on labor cost. Say it takes 1000 workers at lets say $30hr 8 hr day $240,000 a day vs 1000 $30 a day $30,000 = 210,000 day saved on labor. thats 63 million on a 300 day year. Thats not even adding the saving on benefits. Yep I wouldn't build here ether.
Parent - By DaveBoyer (*****) Date 06-03-2009 03:30
Don't worry Bryon, AM General made the real HUMMERS, they are not owned by General Motors.

http://www.amgeneral.com/
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