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- - By ruero (**) Date 07-04-2009 01:45
Gov. Palin is stepping down. But may be good for us in the long run. I would urge you all to go to foxnews.com and give a listen to her statement. It is to bad we don't have more politicians that think like she does. IMO
Parent - - By michael kniolek (***) Date 07-04-2009 01:53
I hope its part of a bigger plan.
Parent - - By dbigkahunna (****) Date 07-04-2009 14:28
America needs a president with BALL$. Sarah Palin
Parent - - By CWI555 (*****) Date 07-04-2009 18:23
Some would consider what she has done to be cowardice. I would say it took more courage to quit. The socialist press has been steadily crucifying Her and her family from the moment she appeared on the national campaign trail, and worst yet, after. For what purpose did they continue the knee biting months after the election was over?
As an American, it was embarrassing what our media, and a lot of our elected officials did to the Palin family as a whole. Had that been Pelosi, or any other 'liberal' woman, the reporters and politicians who attacked Palin would have been fired the first time, not the 20th if at all. Had even a 20th of what she faced been fired in obama's direction the race cards would have been flying, and the media hatches chopping.

Where was the righteous indignation of the media and the liberals when all this took place... oh that's right, they were slathering all over their golden boy who has now hosed this country.
Parent - - By michael kniolek (***) Date 07-04-2009 20:43
Where were Womans rights activists???????????
Not a peep from those harpies!!!!
They are political puppets, and would not defend a woman who fits their "Modern Woman of Today" Powerfull, Smart, Atractive, so as far as im concerned they are just another Liberal B/S group.
Parent - - By ruero (**) Date 07-04-2009 21:16
She is a huge threat to their power controling agenda and they will do what ever they can to destroy her. I do think she has a plan so it is not over by no means.
Parent - - By michael kniolek (***) Date 07-04-2009 21:30
I love the “Only dead fish go with the flow” comment.

Its an interesting strategy hope it works.
Parent - - By CWI555 (*****) Date 07-04-2009 23:10
make that brain dead fish
Parent - - By Metarinka (****) Date 07-05-2009 00:49
I don't like a quitter

but that's my personal preference.

Is quitting half-way thru a term for (as far as I can tell) unspecified reasons the best way to serve her constituents in the fair state of Alaska?
Parent - - By CWI555 (*****) Date 07-05-2009 02:26
Not normally no. This is not normal circumstance. I believe she's made the right choice.
Parent - By ruero (**) Date 07-05-2009 05:18 Edited 07-05-2009 05:36
I think she was very clear on why she is doing this. She is one of few that will stand up for what she believes is the right thing to do.
Parent - - By michael kniolek (***) Date 07-05-2009 22:50
If she had stayed the left would still have that experience issue. As long as she moves a step up, it wont hurt her, if its anything else she’s all done.

MDK
Parent - By CWI555 (*****) Date 07-05-2009 22:53
true
Parent - - By js55 (*****) Date 07-06-2009 18:19 Edited 07-06-2009 18:25
The experience issue was certainly applied in only one direction. We just elected a junior senator with no experience either. But he talks pretty.
Forreign Affairs committee you say?
OK. When he was there.
How bout executive experience?
Nada.
But Palin had it. Maybe only a couple years, but thats a couple years more than Schicklegruber had, and by all reports successfully as well. I'm still waiting for a report on a Schicklgruber success. And lets not forget, she was only nominated as VP!!!

Never in the history of American politics has a candidates FAMILY been subjected to such an onslaught of hateful spew. Never even close.
And its true, it didn't stop at the election because they knew she'd be back. The media turned its eye elsewhere (imagine that) but the onslaught didn't stop. It got worse. Because without the media's scrutiny there was no accountability.
She is dangerous to them. She is a brilliant, charismatic, good looking woman who opposes abortion. And gets the job done. This to liberals makes her the antichrist and she had to be destroyed at ALL costs.
Not since Phyllis Schlafly has the left had such a woman to hate. You remember Phyllis don't you? The woman that almost single handedly destroyed the Equal Rights Amendment. They tried to make her a joke too. And she kicked their azz!!!
Democrats, the party for women? BWWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! You have got to be seriously delusional to believe that!!
I have no idea what Sarah's plans are, but I would say there is little reason for liberal celebration just yet.
Which brings me to another point. The celebration itself.
The celebration of what?
This celebration can only be described as a recognition of a 'perceived' success of Sturmabteilung tactics.
But this is America. We just can't run around with arm bands and billy clubs any more. There are 'more civilized' ways to do the same thing.
Yes. Attack her family. Call her coward. See what happens.
Where's my popcorn?
Parent - - By Superflux (****) Date 07-06-2009 19:38
PALIN DRAGS UP!!            whatta woosey!

Republican party suffers..... 3 years ago I told folks that McCain was the Rep party's only chance in '08. He had a ditinguished military record and more than enough public service as a politician to meet anyone's expectations for the Presidency, even though the job has only age and residency pre-requisites. Apparently the Party had NO Chance!
Tougher to prequalify for burrito folder at Taco Bell than to be leader of the Free World.

What I see from MS. Palin (everyone says she's pulling this caper to position herself for '012 presidential race) is just like some welder's helper that can't take the ribbing and then drags up thinking she/he will be so missed and was so valuable that after a brief cool down, they can then rehire as foreman or QC.
Maybe it's just me cuz I think practically all politicians should voted out and get people in that would stick to the CONSTITUTION!!!!!
Parent - By js55 (*****) Date 07-06-2009 20:36
"Ribbing"?
Thats what happened?
Parent - - By darren (***) Date 07-06-2009 20:00
i dont think that any personality is strong enough to combat the money machine that has obama (currently) as its spokesman, again i believe the parties are opposames and not opposites.
the more that wake up and PASSIVELY resist, the better the chance we all have.
i believe that there is an obvious movement for world domination by a group of people that have an agenda of reduction of the world population and central control of the remaining population. whether this is good for mankind or not i do not know. (it sure doesn't feel good)

what i do know is that any deviation from the declaration of independence and the constitution and its first twelve amendments is contrary to humanity.
i have a hunch and a hunch alone that there is an "x" factor that is outside of my periphery that is going to balance out this world domination issue.

as far as palin goes it sure seemed like she took some pretty targeted venomous press. honesty and integrity are only attributes of appearance and not actualization for presidents and their ilk. the last honest pres seems to be jfk and we all know how it turned out for him.
hang on to your boots.
Parent - By Cactusthewelder (*****) Date 07-06-2009 20:37
I think she quit so she can be featured in the December Centerfold of Penthouse
Parent - - By js55 (*****) Date 07-06-2009 20:39 Edited 07-06-2009 20:43
"the last honest pres seems to be jfk"
Really?
We talkin bout the REAL Kennedy or the myth developed by Johnson and the dems ever since.
Parent - - By Superflux (****) Date 07-06-2009 21:52
OK,
Last honest president was Theodore Roosevelt. Of course he got "the job" by default or more accurately de bullet.
Yeah, I'd call it ribbing...some jerk-o comic makes an inappropriate stab at her daughter.
The people of Alaska trusted her for leadership of their great state for a set ammount of time and she has dishonored herself and let her constituents down by abandoning her duties as Governor while campaigning for VP and then draggin up!
Parent - - By js55 (*****) Date 07-07-2009 00:17
Letterman???
You don't think this is all about the Letterman crapola?

While I would agree that the people of Alaska have a ligitimate beef, thinking this is about the Letterman comment is like thinking the Clinton Scandal is about sticky contraband cigars on the Presidents desk. Think about it.

As for Teddy. You may need to go back a bit further than that.
Parent - By Superflux (****) Date 07-07-2009 04:24
"The people of Alaska trusted her for leadership of their great state for a set ammount of time and she has dishonored herself and let her constituents down by abandoning her duties as Governor while campaigning for VP and then draggin up!"   (For what ever reason?) Hey, if she were dying of terminal cancer or advanced AIDS, that would be another and acceptable issue

BUT! Since she could not stand the heat, she did get out of the kitchen. This I can respect (since I don't live in Alaska).
Fact is...Only Sarah Palin knows THE REASON

Dig deep enough, there is plenty of dirt to be found with any president. Many of the Founding Fathers were slave owners and Pot Growers
Parent - - By darren (***) Date 07-06-2009 22:24
i did put seems
Parent - - By 803056 (*****) Date 07-07-2009 04:38
I doubt it has anything to do with the heat of several ethics violations and investigations she and he husband have had to contend with.

Al
Parent - - By js55 (*****) Date 07-07-2009 07:12 Edited 07-07-2009 07:15
Al,
Point taken.

A listing of known ethics complaints filed against Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin:

1. - July 28, 2008 - Alaska lawmakers launched an investigation into whether Gov. Sarah Palin abused her power when she fired Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan over his refusal to let go a state trooper involved in a contentious divorce with Palin’s sister. Stephen Branchflower, a special counsel leading the investigation, concluded Oct. 10 that Palin violated a state ethics law that prohibits public officials from using their office for personal gain. The firing itself was deemed lawful since Monegan was an at-will employee.

2. - Aug. 6, 2008 - Complaint filed by outspoken Palin critic Andree McLeod of Anchorage contended Palin and some staff members used their influence to get a Palin supporter a job in state government. Complaint alleged Palin staffers helped Tom Lamal, who once co-hosted a Palin fundraiser, to get a job as a surveyor. Dismissed by state personnel board, although the board’s investigator recommended ethics training for one staffer who made questionable comments in e-mails.

3. - Aug. 20, 2008 - Complaint accused Palin of breaking election law by taking a public position on a mining ballot initiative days before the vote. Filed by Brian Kraft, founder of the Bristol Bay Alliance, a group that opposed the Pebble Mine prospect. Rejected May 8 by the Alaska Public Offices Commission.

- Aug. 29, 2008 - Palin named as John McCain’s running mate.

4. - Sept. 2, 2008 - Palin filed a “self disclosure” with the state personnel board over the Troopergate affair, saying a state legislative probe had become too political. On Nov. 3 - the day before the election - Timothy Petumenos, a lawyer hired by the board, said that Palin violated no ethics laws when she fired Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan.

5. - Sept. 3, 2008 - Complaint by the Public Safety Employees Association alleged Palin or her staff had unauthorized access to and improperly disclosed information from personnel records of Trooper Mike Wooten, Palin’s ex-brother-in-law. Complaint was later amended to include an allegation of harassment. The PSEA’s allegations were investigated alongside Palin’s filing and also dismissed.

6. - Oct. 13, 2008 - Monegan asked the board for a hearing to clear his name. Petumenos, in his Nov. 3 Troopergate report to the panel, said there was no legal basis or jurisdiction for such a hearing.

7. - Oct. 23, 2008 - Complaint with the Federal Election Commission by Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics alleged the $150,000-plus designer wardrobe the Republican Party bought to outfit Palin in her vice presidential quest violated Federal Election Campaign Act. The Washington watchdog group argued that candidates aren’t supposed to use donor money for personal expenses. The FEC ruled May 19 that party money is not covered by the ban.

8. - Oct. 24, 2008 - Complaint contended Palin abused her power by charging the state when her children traveled with her. The personnel board found no wrongdoing, but in a Feb. 23 settlement Palin agreed to reimburse the state about $10,000 for costs associated with 10 trips found to be of questionable state interest among 72 travel authorizations studied. The money is due to the state on Tuesday.

9. - Nov. 14, 2008 - Accused Palin of partisan “post-election damage control” for talking to reporters about the campaign in her state office. Filed by Zane Henning, a North Slope worker from Wasilla, Palin’s hometown. Dismissed by state personnel board March 23.

10. - Dec. 2, 2008 - Alleged Palin violated ethics law by campaigning for Republican Sen. Saxby Chambliss of Georgia. Filed by Anthony Martin of Talkeetna. Dismissed by state personnel board March 23.

11. - Dec. 18, 2008 - Complaint contended Palin misused funds of the Alaska Seafood Marketing Institute, a quasi-government entity, to promote her political ambitions with advertisements featuring her, violating ethics law. The ads promoting Alaska seafood ran in the National Fisherman last year through November. Dismissed Jan. 12 after a personnel board investigation determined Palin’s only involvement was to give permission to use her image long before she was named McCain’s running mate.

12. - Jan. 12 - Complaint alleging interference in a job hiring was filed under the name of Edna Birch, a busybody character on the British soap opera Emmerdale. Palin’s attorney, Thomas Van Flein, said no one by that name could be found living in Alaska and the filer refused to use a real name, so the complaint was dismissed Feb. 20.

13. and 14. - Jan. 26 - Two complaints filed by McLeod alleged two of Palin’s top aides misused their official positions for Palin’s personal and political gain. The complaints said then-press secretary Bill McAllister and Kris Perry - director of the governor’s Anchorage office - worked on state time to benefit Palin’s interests during and after her vice presidential quest. Pending.

15. - March 18 - Contended Palin improperly used state staff, property, time and equipment for partisan political purposes. One of the grievances cited was Palin’s posting of her veep candidacy on the official state governor’s Web site - http://gov.state.ak.us/archive.php?id=1439&type=1 Complaint filed by McLeod. Dismissed May 27 as lacking merit by personnel board May 27.

16. - March 24 - Contended conflict of interest by Palin because she wore Arctic Cat logo gear during the Tesoro Iron Dog snowmobile race. Palin’s husband, Todd, is sponsored by Arctic Cat in the race. Filed by Linda Kellen Biegel, a Democratic blogger. Dismissed June 2.

17. - April 22 - Alleged that work with Palin’s political action committee violated two provisions of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act by misusing her official position and accepting outside employment. Filed by Anchorage resident Sondra Tompkins. Dismissed as lacking merit by state personnel board May 8.

18. - April 27 - Contends Palin is misusing the governor’s office for personal gain by securing unwarranted benefits and receiving improper gifts through the Alaska Fund Trust. The fund was recently established by supporters to help Palin pay off more than $500,000 in legal debts stemming from other ethics complaints, including troopergate. Complaint filed by Eagle River resident, Kim Chatman. Pending.

I can see where one bulls**t investigation after another would wear on you.
I especially like #12.
Like I said in an earlier post. The onslaught continues. The Left is terrified of this woman.

PS: I think this constitutes just a bit more than "ribbing". And this doesn't even consider the absolute swill that has been stated about her and her family in the press.
Parent - - By js55 (*****) Date 07-07-2009 13:30
Can you imagine the outcry of bigotry were Schicklgruber to have such relentless and baseless 'ethics' charges and investigations (one even initiated in the name of a British soap opera character) imposed upon him over and over and over again?
After all wasn't it that, oh so elequent, spokesperspon for the left Janeane Garafolo who stated that anyone opposing Schicklgruber are just redneck bigots?
And yet, for Sarah Palin, nothing in the mainstream media but silence.
Where is the outcry of mysogyny?
The outcry of gender bias?
Oh thats right. Since according to the Left Palin is "not even a woman" (quotes intended), how can there possibly be gender bias?
Parent - - By Lawrence (*****) Date 07-07-2009 14:08
If she is leaving her post to retire from politics I respect that decision.

If she left her post with plans for another office I think she is derilect in her duty and has gone back on a very important committment, period...  Very clean cut.

Her comments during her press conference were vauge at best...  She has a record of being clear and consice as a communicator... After a 45 minute speach, nobody really knows why she left or what she is doing... Very disturbing for a thing of this magnitude.

Double standards, unfair attacks, dirty tricks, Yep, maybe worse than anybody targeted in American history... She knew that all going in and it will not decrease if she stays in the public eye....  Again if she leaves politics to protect her family from the horrible assault, I can support that... If she is only regrouping for another political venture... That is wrong in my opinion.

She is certainly not the first politician I actually liked that turned out to dissapoint.
Parent - - By jwright650 (*****) Date 07-07-2009 14:14
Well said.
Parent - By Superflux (****) Date 07-07-2009 15:35
"She is certainly not the first politician I actually liked that turned out to dissapoint."

Jesse Ventura and Richard Nixon come to mind.
Parent - - By js55 (*****) Date 07-07-2009 17:13
Lawrence,
I would have to say that I am disappointed as well. But that is my problem. Not hers.
And actually, I thought she cleared it up quite well. To say that nobody really knows is not true at all. Cripe, even the women on the View (which I was forced to watch today since I'm home-don't tell anybody) have a clear idea of it. The truth of it is, the answer just did not satisfy many. But unsatsifactory is not vague. Is there more to it? Maybe. But there doesn't necessarily have to be.
She has no intention of running for re-election in Alaska which means essentially she has 1 more year (give or take a little)to go.
The ridiculous charges and investigations have cost the State of Alaska over $300,000 (which may not sound like much in ObamaNation) thus far, with clearly no end in sight. Each time a charge is dropped another mysteriously appears.
She was spending far too much time just defending herself over s**t. Again and again.

Also, I still have yet to hear anyone in the press, or any of the talking heads, or anyone in this forum besides myself criticize the continuing irresponsible expensive assault on the Governor. Not one peep. Kenneth Star was bashed every day in the press when he wouldn't quit on Clinton. And that slime broke the law as a sitting President.
And I have to say that this statement "She knew that all going in", is shocking. Nobody, absolutely nobody, could have anticipated the hatred, the venomous spew, the endless crap charges, the unprecedented onslaught she and her family has endured. All in all I think she came through it quite well.
But as I said previously, to me this is quite simple. She is a popular, successful, conservative woman opposed to abortion. She has to be destroyed at any cost.

One more thing,
"Again if she leaves politics to protect her family from the horrible assault, I can support that... If she is only regrouping for another political venture... That is wrong in my opinion.".
Are you assuming they are necessarily exclusive of one another? Not to mention saving perhaps the State of Alaska another half mil in bulls**t investigations. If combined wouldn't that mitigate your stance?
But at least you grant her that much. In radically leftist circles her protection of her family through resignation is still cowardice. This, from the side of the political aisle that claims equal support for family values.

OK, two more things,
"Again if she leaves politics to protect her family from the horrible assault, I can support that... If she is only regrouping for another political venture... That is wrong in my opinion."
Maybe a discussion on the real differences between Obama and Hillary leaving their Senate seats for higher office, or any number of politicians that have always done the same thing is in order. They still abandoned their consitutency in mid term. Is it the gap in between that is bothersome? Lets clarify the abandonment logic. In the end the respective constituencies are left with the exact same status.
Parent - - By CWI555 (*****) Date 07-07-2009 17:56
"Also, I still have yet to hear anyone in the press, or any of the talking heads, or anyone in this forum besides myself criticize the continuing irresponsible expensive assault on the Governor"
http://www.aws.org/cgi-bin/mwf/topic_show.pl?pid=136889;hl=palin
http://www.aws.org/cgi-bin/mwf/topic_show.pl?pid=122169;hl=palin
http://www.aws.org/cgi-bin/mwf/topic_show.pl?pid=154975;hl=palin

I believe this counts except for mention of the expense part.
Parent - By js55 (*****) Date 07-08-2009 13:35
Sorry Gerald.
It counts.
Thanks
Parent - - By Lawrence (*****) Date 07-07-2009 21:45
"Maybe a discussion on the real differences between Obama and Hillary leaving their Senate seats for higher office, or any number of politicians that have always done the same thing is in order. They still abandoned their consitutency in mid term. Is it the gap in between that is bothersome? Lets clarify the abandonment logic. In the end the respective constituencies are left with the exact same status."

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Finish the job.. Do it right.  Move on the the next thing.. 

Integrity is not a thing to be relatively compared to what others are doing.

I like Gov. Palen.  She has been treated worse than any political figury in my memory with no grounds at all.  I still disagree with what she did if it is a matter of positioning herself for higher office.

Money was never an issue... There are uncounted wealthy conservatives ready to step in and defend her.. The taxpayers need not foot the bill.
Parent - - By js55 (*****) Date 07-08-2009 14:00
Lawrence,
Those ready to help can only help with her personal finances were she willing to accept it. But that wouldn't eliminate her debt. Only postpone the required payback. She would still have to pay back her 'friends'. I would think.

Also, the cost of which their help cannot have an effect, and in which the taxpayers will have to pay, is the investigations and processes of the government agencies involved. And I underestimated this number. Yesterday it was reported on Fox as being in the millions (so far), not 300K. And her personal debt right now seems to be around a half mil. These are big numbers.

But I want to emphasize that I too would have preferred she stay in office to the end. I also believe that as more details come to light about the money and the debt, criticism of her decision will be mitigated.

One further detail of interest is how members of her own party (remember one of the primary reasons she was elected was that she took on the Republican establishment in Alaska) were beginning to abandon support for what she wanted to do because of their fears of being involved in the assault, AND an opportunity for a little payback for her being a rebel in the Party.

You gotta hand it to the liberals in this case. They set out to destroy her and though they haven't as yet accomplished that, far from it, they have accomplished a modicum of 'divide and conquer' status witnessed by the cowardice and betrayal of her own party members and much of the discussion nationally and in this forum.
Granted, without the resignation the national divide would not have taken place, but the Party betrayal in Alaska was already happening. Many on the left wish to call her coward, but the true cowards are the Republican Party members in Alaska who have betrayed her.

In the end my disappointment is well mixed with admiration for a woman that essentially says scroo you I'm going to do this my way.
You run Sarah. I 'll vote for you.
Parent - By Lawrence (*****) Date 07-08-2009 16:43
If she stays in politics:

They will continue to attack her (even if she leaves they will pile on for a while just because they can)..  Her supporters will support her with money... and she will pay it back one way or another.. Just as would have happened if she stayed in office.. 

If she is out of elected politics... the point is moot
Parent - By KSellon (****) Date 07-09-2009 18:37
http://www.thealaskafundtrust.com/

Palin has currently amassed 1/2 mil in personal debt defending BS.
Parent - - By DaveBoyer (*****) Date 07-08-2009 02:23
Lawrence: How do You feel about elected officials who slack on their current position for a year while they campaign for the higher position?
Parent - By Lawrence (*****) Date 07-08-2009 04:35
Did I not say in the post directly above..  "Two wrongs"  ???
Parent - By darren (***) Date 07-12-2009 16:55
my dad says... there are two things a man does not want to know the way in which they are made, sausage and politics.......because they are often made of the same ingredients.
no disrespect intended to those great and ethical sausage makers out there.
.
Parent - By KSellon (****) Date 07-09-2009 18:42
Since her Vice-Presidential nomination, the Governor has become a target for local partisans, national professional political operatives, and defenders of the status quo. They have attempted to discredit Governor Palin and limit her effectiveness in reforming government, based on her solid conservative principles.

Governor Palin, her family, and her staff had to endure a major investigation in which the Governor was cleared of any wrongdoing. However, the exoneration did not occur until hundreds of thousands of dollars in personal debt piled up for the family. In addition, countless unfounded ethics charges have been filed. Unfortunately, it is illegal in Alaska to discuss the filing of an ethics complaint, much less its merit. More troublesome is that there is no punishment for filing frivolous complaints. Therefore opponents continue to drum up ideas, file complaints, and leak them to the media. As the complaints disappear due to lack of evidence, there is no media follow-up on a blatant, costly abuse of the process.

quoted from : http://www.thealaskafundtrust.com/about/
Parent - - By BryonLewis (****) Date 07-09-2009 13:37
I think she F'ed up by taking McCain's invitation to the national scene.  She wasen't prepared for that gig.  Everytime she opens her mouth she comes off as a dumbarse.  Romney might be the only chance the repubs might have in 2012 unless Rush Limbaugh or Newt Gingrich decide to come into the mix.

All in all Sarah should just shut the hell up and pose for Playboy!!!
Parent - - By js55 (*****) Date 07-09-2009 14:29
Bryon,
You are seriously confusing Sarah with Joe Biden (which might explain how idiots like Schicklgruber and Biden can get to the White House) the all time greatest gaff machine. You could fill a volume the size of War and Peace with his unbelievably stupid comments. The latest I heard, though I'm sure there's been more since then, is that he claimed to be the first Negro Vice President. Huh? Which was received with boos and moans of discomfort from a friendly audience. And then he made it worse by trying to explain what he meant. Not only was he too stupid to realize what he said was stupid, but he was too stupid to figure out how to fix stupid. By shutting up.
So while Sarah talks and her popularity and respect rise precipitously, most commentators stating her addition to the ticket perhaps gave McCain his only shot, Joe Biden continues to embarrass his President over and over and over again. You gotta know that Schicklegruber wishes, as you say, he would "just shut the hell up"!!!
And a governor of Alaska for 2 years is somehow not prepared when a junior Senator of 180 days (the point when he decided to run for President), without any executive experience AT ALL, is????

This is why liberals continue attacks on the intelligence of conservatives. They just can't seem to come up with any ligitimate arguments. When they try they either get their azzes handed to them in debate or they go adolescent by plugging their ears and screamin na na na na na na na na na na so they don't have to hear it.

As for posing for Playboy? OK, I'll give you that one.   :)
Parent - - By jwright650 (*****) Date 07-09-2009 14:35 Edited 07-10-2009 18:41
I have to agree with your assessment of Joe Biden...he is a total babbling bafoon and an embarrassment to everyone he's around.

Parent - By js55 (*****) Date 07-09-2009 14:57
John,
And, as with the liberal indictment of Palin, one heart beat away from the Presidency.
Clearly with Palin competence was NOT the issue. Clearly Biden has always been like this. Abortion was the issue. The only one that mattered. The rest was just distraction.
Its just like the Sotomayor nomination. She can make all the racist remarks she wants. As long as she supports RoeVWade she gets the liberal endorsement.
Parent - - By KSellon (****) Date 07-09-2009 16:51
like every hard working, self respecting, woman with morals, she's not going to pose for Playboy.. thats better left to those who are showing you the ONLY thing they have to offer.

Maybe your party will run with Kendra or Bridget in 2012, they should be able to read from a monitor as well as Obama
Parent - - By FixaLinc (****) Date 07-09-2009 18:16
Exactly, I think she has lots more good ole boys to fry in oil yet ! :)  Otherwise they wouldn't be so skeered of a little hockey mom ? 
Parent - - By BryonLewis (****) Date 07-09-2009 18:24
I think that she's getting out now to ride the money train.  She's still, just barely on people's minds, so if she gets out now she will cause a stir and have some viability to make real money.  Book deals, wow that would be a horrible read or some talk show BS.  She's got more potential, because of her looks, in the media spotlight than any political aspirations that she or her supporters might have.
Parent - By FixaLinc (****) Date 07-09-2009 18:28
Even if she doesn't run she could still fry them on tv, radio, books getting it done and probably make more $$$$$$$ than running for office.  I doubt we have seen the end of her face on prime time media. 
Parent - - By js55 (*****) Date 07-09-2009 19:59
Thats right Bryon, a staunch defender of the party that says they are for womens rights states that a good looking woman has nothing to offer but her looks.
Its OK. You didn't really reveal anything. We knew all along the hypocracy of the Democratic Party.
Parent - By jrw159 (*****) Date 07-09-2009 23:20
OUCH!! :-)
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