Quite The Welding Test

Date 12-01-2009 05:43

Howdy all, well after running low on welding projects to do around my current area I decided to put my resume online last night thinking it couldn't hurt. This morning I got a call about a great job offer. I would take it in a heart beat, the catch. I have to be Hess certified and after hearing what all the testing is I have come to the conclusion that it is a not the easiest one I have seen...ha maybe when the boss said it wasn't easy should have tipped me off.

Well what I have to do is...
1 1/2" pipe uphill and downhill
6" uphill and downhill
6" Saddle weld
Using 6010 root and 8018 fill and cap. All in the 6G position

Now that's all fine and dandy aside from the fact that I have never welded such a small diameter pipe (2" being the smallest). Along with never running a 8018 rod with limited downhill pipe work. But if the 8018 is anything like the 7018 then no worries there.

I have a few days to go to his business and practice which I fully intend on doing, but before I do so I am just wondering if anyone has any tips that could be passed along to me. Looking for an advice on the 8018 rod, downhill pipe welding, welding small diameter pipe and hell if there is an easier way to saddle a pipe I would appreciate that also. I will be doing my own research of course but hearing straight from the horses mouth is always best I like to think.

By Tommyjoking (****)

Date 12-01-2009 06:54

Sch 40 ?? Yea the small one will be a little tougher......sorry I have never run a 8018 myself much less even heard of it LOL. All I can say is if you burn that in ????both directions??? and they are gonna pay to shoot it then the job "should" pay a good rate....especially if you have to fit the saddle. I am sure someone here will have some pointers on the rod.

Good luck
Tommy

By Cactusthewelder (*****)

Date 12-01-2009 12:12

8018 runs just like 7018

By texasrigwelder (**)

Date 12-01-2009 23:46

i always thought it just hare more watery

By Dark_Angel (*)

Date 12-01-2009 15:19

Yes the 1 1/2" diameter pipe is sch. 40 and the 6" diameter pipe is sch.80 is what I am told. Also as far as the 8018 goes I believe that is what the fill and cap is but I will be calling him back today because I am not 100% sure if he didn't say 8010 which in that case I am just going to assume that it is like 6010 just high tensile strength and correct me if I am wrong but a faster cooling rate...

By low_hydrogen (**)

Date 12-01-2009 17:43

Not sure on the cooling rate? I have ran some 8010 on a 6" line and some 4" always heard it called hippie rod. If your good with 6010 you'll be fine with 8010, some say it pin holes less in the wind? I say block the wind and continue.. And the 8018 runs about like 7018 imo. Although I would'nt imagine that you'll be running it downhill?

The small 1 1/2" is all about rod angle and speed! Although my exsperience I believe was more with sch 80 1 1/2"

On the saddle, I use the adding machine tape. Wrap it around your pipe and size it correctly fold it eight time and cut the corners. After getting sixteen lines on you pipe (using the curve o matic pipe center punch) you can use the offset measurements in the pipe fitters blue book.

You can use the search in here, someone posted a detailed explanation not to long ago?

By joe pirie (***)

Date 12-01-2009 23:39

its not hippie rod it's HPY Rod

By low_hydrogen (**)

Date 12-02-2009 00:07

Ok you got me?

The old timer I worked for called it hippie? and 6010 5p (red) was called sparkler rod?
What's the HPY stand for?

I remember asking why it was called hippie, got some smart arse answer about something in the seventies?
Of course they called 6010 5p sparkler cause it ate your sleeves up (like a sparkler)

By Sharp Tungsten (**)

Date 12-02-2009 00:39

HYP I think is what you are referring to and I believe it stands for high yield pipe. Pipeliners would know more about if this is correct.

By Rig Hand (***)

Date 12-02-2009 01:05

HYPE- High Yield Pipe Electrode-7010-G

By low_hydrogen (**)

Date 12-02-2009 01:16

Sounds right I've seen the shield arc hyp 7010-G?

I don't recall seeing the hyp on 8010 tho? 8010p 8010-p1, or a 8010-g something like that. Course I think now they make a 8010 8p pipeliner. So I assume once upon a time it could have been labeled hyp 8010...

I've been on plenty of pipelines but only used 8010 a few times and was always referred to as hippie? Know of one well head that called for the 8018.

By tighand430 (***)

Date 12-02-2009 06:04

I don't think there ever was a HYP 8010 but the older hands would know more about that than me. The only 8010 rods that I know of are the 70+ an 8P+.

By ronnie taylor (**)

Date 12-02-2009 00:55

We had some 8018 rods in school. They said boilermaker on them, when you chiped it the inside of the flux was a money green color.

By Sharp Tungsten (**)

Date 12-02-2009 01:27

Yeah I think I know the ones your talking about 8018-B2 boilermaker rods by Hobart. Have a real wierd arc and are only 12 inches long instead of 14 inches. We had 500 pounds of them at the atart of one job and about 495 pounds of it at the end of the job. Just didn't run as good as the Atom Arcs or Excaliber rod.

By RioCampo (***)

Date 12-01-2009 23:55

You have to move fast and stay ahead of the puddle with your rod angle.

By 63 Max

Date 12-02-2009 00:41

Turn down a notch on the big dial. When I'm running 2" or smaller I turn it down. It's alot easier to control it.