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- - By Mikeqc1 (****) Date 02-15-2010 22:24
Hey I wonder, since cars have become so reliant on computers could a person develop a virus that could infect them?
Parent - - By FixaLinc (****) Date 02-16-2010 02:49
The virus has been built in them by the auto maker for a while that's how they they keep you coming back for parts or trade for another one.
Parent - - By Mikeqc1 (****) Date 02-16-2010 03:06
But could a person learn how to make a virus to screw with a certain type of car ?
Parent - - By JLWelding (***) Date 02-16-2010 03:23
HA HA  I can see this marketing device coming. For just 9.99 we can fix you right up.
Parent - By mcostello (**) Date 02-16-2010 03:42
Wonder if O-----R could do it remotely?
Parent - By Mikeqc1 (****) Date 02-16-2010 03:42
Imagine calling the geeksquad to start your car!
Parent - - By DaveBoyer (*****) Date 02-16-2010 04:21
Your car is generally not connected to any place that could give it a virus [unlike being on line]. Someone could possibly screw with the diagnostic equipment in such a way that it would screw up the car's computer when You take it in for service, it really depends on how the car's computer is set up.
Parent - - By waccobird (****) Date 02-16-2010 10:37
DaveBoyer
Audi announced at Barcelona that they’ll offer an in-car computer system called Mobile Media Interface Plus on selected A8 models this year. A5’s are already available with the non-Plus MMI, reviewed by CNet last year. MMI Plus is built around a 3G wireless connection based on a Qualcomm  UMTS chipset. The network connection lets MMI Plus-equipped drivers make voice calls and use the data network at the same time.

Audi has integrated Google Earth into the MMI Plus navigation system. “When these images are combined with a detailed street atlas and other online or offline content in real-time,” a statement from Audi says, “the MMI Plus navigation system can provide route planning, points-of-interest and real-time traffic updates.”
Sounds like they are now.
Marshall
Parent - By ssbn727 (*****) Date 02-16-2010 18:22
I would imagine that there is some sort of inherent encryption technology being used in order to prevent the type of potential hacking which could in fact occur just like what happened with the predator dornes being hacked by the insurgents in both Iraq and Afganistan for crying out loud!!! :( :( :(

Thank God they have fixed the problem by encrypting the signals with some pretty robust "Stuff!!!" However, it really bothered the crap out of me that this type of encrypting technology wasn't being used beforehand!!! It seems like the nerds became complacent and a bit omnipotent IMHO!!! :( :( :(

My comps are not only dual fire-walled and have the best Anti everything as well as constantly being scanned and updated, but they are also encrypted to where I cannot open a file or folder without going through my encryption software first in order to have access and neither can anyone else for that matter!!! I would like to see that everyone in here take this suggestion seriously and do the same to their own systems in order to decrease your own vulnerability of becoming the next victim of identity theft - CAPECHE??? :) :) :)

In other words, REMAIN VIGILANT AS OPPOSED TO FALLING INTO COMPLACENCY - PEOPLE!!! :) :) :)

Respectfully,
Henry
Parent - - By DaveBoyer (*****) Date 02-17-2010 02:59
I am never up on the latest & greatest, but the computer systems for engine management, ABS & traction control were in the past and should remain stand alone systems. These don't need WWW access to function.

The other stuff is BS in My poinion, the car should be able to work without it.

My BroInlaw had a Mini Van that kept locking Him out. The stupid door locks were operated by a faulty computer, and the only manual lock was on the hatch. To get in the car He had to crawl through to the front to open the hood so He could disconnect the battery cable for a minute or two, then it would work OK for a while.
Parent - By Mikeqc1 (****) Date 02-17-2010 03:29
I had a laser that when i hit a bump the talking computer would run a check on the car.
Checking oil PSI......
Checking Transmision PSI.....
Coolant level...
ect...ect
Parent - By FixaLinc (****) Date 02-16-2010 21:23
Like Dave said someone with the wrong diagnostic equipment or know how could mess it up but I don't see any other way unless someone devises a way to hack into it with On Star or other GPS setup or something like that.  That's why your OEM dealer mechanic squeals at you when someone else has used other diagnostic equipment on it not bringing it to the dealer first claiming the other equipment or non OEM chips and parts does more harm than good but that is not always right.  A lot of the OEM parts are the same china junk coming from the same factory reboxed and marked up on price.  Some aftermarket diagnostic equipment won't pick up all the codes or you keep having to buy new equipment or subscribe or pay for upgrades to your tester another circle created by the auto makers with electronics and computers.  When they make vehicles with a computer that can be hacked into where the driver is not in control I'm going to walk or ride a horse.  Who wants to get in a vehicle someone could hack into and send you on a death speed run or steers itself ?
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