Weaver you are absolutely correct that Obama did not put the country in the toilet. You are also correct in the fact the unions are dying...in most cases a sick, suffering and violent death. To assume this is all the result of a previous administrations policy's is not only misinformed it is just plain wrong. A lot of the economical problems or "scary as hell investor involvement" is simply a result of greed...I can make 5% selling off this risky fund kinda thing. Very little in the way of government regulation or lack thereof created this situation; however the Fed should have stepped in about 2003-2004 and put a hold on the mortgage lending going on (just the stuff the government was going to guarantee). But the biggest impact to the manufacturing base in this country is a result of free trade agreements passed in the 90's. The last administration let these stand and added to them to our woe. We basically for the most part have an open border for both immigrants as well as imports....look up our Federal taxation on imported products. The biggest economy in the world, the American economy has been based on manufacturing since WWII. In the last 20 years we have enacted more policies to promote quick profit for retail and Company management based off the US consumer engine. Problem is those policies are what increased those profits by moving manufacturing out of the economy that was the primary consumer engine. Right now those polices are beginning (just now beginning to come full circle). One of the Obama administrations major domestic policy blunders, is they are totally ignoring those mistakes. Obama is more worried with making a big statement in foreign policy, something democratic administrations have typically failed with on a huge level. I do not want to hear the BS about inherited economic woes, that is the song of an incompetent person. Major economic moves/spending have been made by the Obama administration and they have had very very little effect. Not all of that is their fault but....there lack of attention to the long term fundamental problems is very telling of the aptitude of this administration to handle the problem!! I really truly don't give a S^^T about yesterday....impress me with what you ARE doing now!!
Wars are usually good boosters to manufacturing based economies. However it is proven fact that long term "police actions" like our military is currently involved in are long term, detrimental to the economy. Majorly in association with political indecision based on public opinion. So that also complicates the situation: Defense contractors are holding there breath on the latest policy, investors know it has to be paid for in the long run, ........ It will take a lot of smarts COMPLETELY dedicated to improving our welfare and way of life to solve this problem....your typical politician is as useless as a empty shell casing you just stepped on. We need to elect true patriots, people willing to sacrifice and devote their lives to their countrymen. Well.....elect your former military as a good starting point. If you wish to get detailed with this that is fine with me.....people need to be more informed then they are and the current major media is a terrible resource for decision making. We need more debate, we need people talking openly, we need to change this country and it's direction terribly bad at this point in time, there is not anything wrong with talking about it. Weaver do not worry about starting S&&T, worry about sitting there doing nothing.
Sincerely
Tommy
I agree with you to a point, weaver. One person did not run this economy into the dirt, but a group of them did. I am not singling out rep or dem or any other party, but the current and last administrations, all members included, for bailing out their buddies on wall street. We've all heard "they're too big to fail." Since when has a private business been too big to fail?
What about Arizona and its border issues? They are doing what the federal government is SUPPOSED to be doing and won't. Not can't but WON'T. If a person is willing to take the risk to come to America and do it the right way, Welcome friend, now go follow the dream you dreamed. If you are here illegally, you and your anchor babies GTFO, and don't come back. If the illegals were not only banned, but kept out, our unemployment rate would go down, more money would be staying here, our economy would improve.
Iraq and Afganistan. How is it that the United States always seems to be the ones rebuilding other countries? To maintain their peace? I know this is an emotional and touchy subject for people, me included. But come on, isn't it about time we quit worrying about other countries and worry about our own?
Imports. I think about the Jeep commercial that was recently posted here. We took pride in what we made, and by and large most of us still do. If management worried more about the people they used to get where they are, I feel people would be more willing to produce. Unions are a big issue with shipping jobs overseas. However, I see both sides such as protecting workers from abuses and unnecessary bad working conditions. That being said, I am a card carrying union member. IAFF Local 179 Hutchinson, Kansas Firefighters. The way Kansas laws are written, we are more of a big boys and girls club than anything. Kansas doesn't have collective bargaining and binding arbitration for us. We cannot strike. We focus our energies towards helping the population we serve and protect. We do make an impressive showing at council meetings and have even swayed a few votes by just standing there.
I am kind of wandering off the track here, but my point is, there is a select few (we voted them into office) that are selling our country and its citizens out. It is time to take our country back, welcome our legal immigrants and rid ourselves of the illegals. Just my thoughts on a monday morning.
Chris
Hey Johnny,
awspartb, your a jerk, why bother us with your whining? Most of have work to do and don't care to listen to your whining.
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